Phaseshift
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[meph]DooM! said:
So there IS client side scripting! Sweet!
[T:V cheating] Oh fsck.
- Thread starter TheRoDent
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So there IS client side scripting! Sweet!
CombatWombat
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Celios said:
It isnt difficult. Not one bit. There is very little lag on the rifle too, so actually predicting what the player will do next is a non issue. Could be a problem. At least it took a few years for T1 to get aimbottered (and even then it was just 1 guy)
TheRoDent said:
Yes, I would think this is exactly whats being done.... this post describes everything perfectly, so i won't bother to write my own summary
The unfortunate reality of cheats like this is that once you are hacking binaries and putting hooks straight into directx, essentailly anything related to displaying extra player info/iffs clientside is possible. However as already stated, it will only work on players that are deemed by the netcode to be relevant to the particular client.
first of all...
most of you dont know shazbot about the unreal engine
you have to understand that those crosses (radar) are an iteration through all players in the given game, HelioS then can do any of the following:
a) draw the radar to the x and y & z coords
or
b) create an aimbot that would aim his player rotation at that x,y,z.
the thing is that no matter what IRG / the devs do they wont be able to combat this level of a hack, its nothing like HM1 or 2, infact its 900 times more powerfull and flexible
HappyMod used locations in memory to grab information about the players
an unreal engine hook has access to all players regardless of distance location what have you...
same goes for bot in it, it can also predict the players location to a "T" on any weapon
as it has been done with rocket launchers, flak, bio rifle, etc in ut games - they usually end up having direct hits - aimbot can also be applied in that sense in T:V
http://osgb.game-deception.com/osgb/demo-movie2.zip
a little movie for you all as to show what is possible in the unreal engine (and also very possible in T:V)
just hold onto the hope that HelioS doesn't release it. If thats the case (which it is so far) then you have nothing to worry your little heads over.
-[ELF]osGb`- (posting under tajora's acct)
most of you dont know shazbot about the unreal engine
you have to understand that those crosses (radar) are an iteration through all players in the given game, HelioS then can do any of the following:
a) draw the radar to the x and y & z coords
or
b) create an aimbot that would aim his player rotation at that x,y,z.
the thing is that no matter what IRG / the devs do they wont be able to combat this level of a hack, its nothing like HM1 or 2, infact its 900 times more powerfull and flexible
HappyMod used locations in memory to grab information about the players
an unreal engine hook has access to all players regardless of distance location what have you...
same goes for bot in it, it can also predict the players location to a "T" on any weapon
as it has been done with rocket launchers, flak, bio rifle, etc in ut games - they usually end up having direct hits - aimbot can also be applied in that sense in T:V
http://osgb.game-deception.com/osgb/demo-movie2.zip
a little movie for you all as to show what is possible in the unreal engine (and also very possible in T:V)
just hold onto the hope that HelioS doesn't release it. If thats the case (which it is so far) then you have nothing to worry your little heads over.
-[ELF]osGb`- (posting under tajora's acct)
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yes thats ut1, the unreal 1 engine.
as you can see we're doing the same thing on the unreal 2 engine now too (refer to first post)
in essence that demonstration movie is the same engine hook (idea) that we are using in UE2 - its an aimbot that modifies the players 'rotation' which is based on the engine and not the mouse - thats why it moves so fast and is so accurate.
Also, prediction of lobbed projectiles and other weapons is also very possible and just as deadly/accurate.
it calculates the x,y and z of an enemy and "SETS" 'your' players VIEW (rotation) to that coord ;P
-[ELF]osGb`-
as you can see we're doing the same thing on the unreal 2 engine now too (refer to first post)
in essence that demonstration movie is the same engine hook (idea) that we are using in UE2 - its an aimbot that modifies the players 'rotation' which is based on the engine and not the mouse - thats why it moves so fast and is so accurate.
Also, prediction of lobbed projectiles and other weapons is also very possible and just as deadly/accurate.
it calculates the x,y and z of an enemy and "SETS" 'your' players VIEW (rotation) to that coord ;P
-[ELF]osGb`-
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Dang, "osgb" dropping the science on master hacking and revealing that a script running in the engine has access to more information than someone with access to all of the process's memory
Are you sure you aren't Tajora pretending to actually know something?
Are you sure you aren't Tajora pretending to actually know something?
well, they probably didnt see this coming in T:V because up until a few weeks ago nothing like this (engine hook - 100% external) was ever possible in UT2k4
they had uscripted hacks sure, (the client side scripting engine) and because the game is so open and riddled with holes people found ways to sneak in and all, but never on this scale, never outside of the game - always internal.
and the devs had internal locked down good, at least thats the impression i get, they cant stop something that they dont even know exists ;p
-[ELF]osGb`-
p.s. (lol) at dooms comment on tajora's lack of experience in this area no im not he, we are talking on irc now, he is just as oblivious (to an extent) as 'most' on this forum are as to what is really going on here.
they had uscripted hacks sure, (the client side scripting engine) and because the game is so open and riddled with holes people found ways to sneak in and all, but never on this scale, never outside of the game - always internal.
and the devs had internal locked down good, at least thats the impression i get, they cant stop something that they dont even know exists ;p
-[ELF]osGb`-
p.s. (lol) at dooms comment on tajora's lack of experience in this area
no im not he, we are talking on irc now, he is just as oblivious (to an extent) as 'most' on this forum are as to what is really going on here.HM2 (& glide2x.dll) were engine hooks as well (ved what exactly Glide2x did though, I never looked much), but you don't even need those if you know the memory layout of the program, and you're ultimately limited by what the netcode is telling you about no matter what. You can't sythesize player positions if the server doesn't give you the information
+you should stop talking to Tajora immediately as he's a grade A moron
+you should stop talking to Tajora immediately as he's a grade A moron
[meph]DooM! said:
meh hes not too bad of a guy, im always willing to teach people who are willing to learn, thats my reasoning behind all of this
mmmmmmm hm2 couldnt hold water to this :/ i know what its composed of... and yeah you could play with memory restrictions but since this is native we can always go up a level
if you want a prime example of cheat vs anticheat under this scenario follow the UT1 community -> they have tried a lot of what you have proposed in that 1 post and more to stop the current barrage of hook releases from HelioS and have all but failed -_-;
-[ELF]osGb`-