No they didn't.
Marweas still hasnt told us about getting fired
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Are you trying to piss me off?
Actually, back in pre-alpha T1 days when skiing wasn't possible you would land and stick to the ground like glue, no matter how fast you were moving in the air. It just felt wrong so it was changed to make you skid to a stop. If you jump before you stop skidding you "ski". Very simple.
So how's life treating you nSpectre? Long time no whatever.
blazindave
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Are you trying to piss me off?
Actually, back in pre-alpha T1 days when skiing wasn't possible you would land and stick to the ground like glue, no matter how fast you were moving in the air. It just felt wrong so it was changed to make you skid to a stop. If you jump before you stop skidding you "ski". Very simple.
So how's life treating you nSpectre? Long time no whatever.
Get the sand out of your vagina Thrax.
why would Mike Ryder order that unreal be used after being told it was 3rd or 4th choice? Could this be considered a "turning point"?
Fan Fucked - That's great, LOL. I agree, dev comments are interesting, stop attacking them.
So why didn't they make a T1 and T2 CTF? They could have pleased all camps that way. I mean, hindsite is 20/20, plus it would have been like starting over on the Unreal engine. They need to go back to the TSE engine, make T1, T2, put them both together and make T3. Then the fans can decide what they want to play. If GG would get the source for T1 and T2, then it can happen. They already got the engine. They can have all 3 versions in one game on the newest graphics. Someone needs to win the lottery, and get the source to GG.
So why didn't they make a T1 and T2 CTF? They could have pleased all camps that way. I mean, hindsite is 20/20, plus it would have been like starting over on the Unreal engine. They need to go back to the TSE engine, make T1, T2, put them both together and make T3. Then the fans can decide what they want to play. If GG would get the source for T1 and T2, then it can happen. They already got the engine. They can have all 3 versions in one game on the newest graphics. Someone needs to win the lottery, and get the source to GG.
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Exactly. You prove my point. You appear to be a T1 fan (as am I) and so the original is the goal. This will piss off the T2 fans, who make up 70% of the fan base (or more).
And I'm not trying to be pissy, just pointing out that we oh so cleverly inserted ourselves between two waring groups. Think Germany and the USSR at the start of World War II, and Marweas and I decided that Poland was a good starting point.
SecretSquirrel
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I don't need any title.
Some people still don't understand what went wrong with the Tribes franchise because their view of what MP video games are, and who they are ment to benefit, and be enjoyed by has not changed. Good luck with that. The rest of us will find other games that make sense to play.
Tribes will always remain the greatest video game franchise to ever blow itself up. Kablowie!
Some people still don't understand what went wrong with the Tribes franchise because their view of what MP video games are, and who they are ment to benefit, and be enjoyed by has not changed. Good luck with that. The rest of us will find other games that make sense to play.
Tribes will always remain the greatest video game franchise to ever blow itself up. Kablowie!
Evil Light Bulb
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Exactly. You prove my point. You appear to be a T1 fan (as am I) and so the original is the goal. This will piss off the T2 fans, who make up 70% of the fan base (or more).
And I'm not trying to be pissy, just pointing out that we oh so cleverly inserted ourselves between two waring groups. Think Germany and the USSR at the start of World War II, and Marweas and I decided that Poland was a good starting point.
Very interesting stuff
Exactly. You prove my point. You appear to be a T1 fan (as am I) and so the original is the goal. This will piss off the T2 fans, who make up 70% of the fan base (or more).
And I'm not trying to be pissy, just pointing out that we oh so cleverly inserted ourselves between two waring groups. Think Germany and the USSR at the start of World War II, and Marweas and I decided that Poland was a good starting point.
A better comparison would be apples to apples - like, say, Quake.
Remember Quakeworld? It was released, and a competitive community immediately emerged. Carmack and co. worked diligently on Q2, and when it was released, they had taken out air control and changed the physics feel a bit. (Sound familiar?) The fans went ballistic. (Sound familiar?) id changed the MP component of Q2 to match that of Quakeworld. (This part will not be familiar.) The fanbase settled down, got even more competitive, and birthed an important component of modern videogames: The multiplayer deathmatch requirement.
When T2 was made, no changes to physics or general gameplay should have been made. Same for T:V. I'll all for innovation - but allow me to step off into apples to oranges. What would happen if they changed the diameter of the regulation basketball every three years, and changed the size of the hoop, and the court? Pandemonium.
Regardless - not everything went wrong. Both T2 and T:V are IMHO gorgeous-looking titles worthy of being called Tribes. The gameplay and physics changes aside, you guys did a good job for the most part - especially considering the corporate climate in which both games were concieved and delivered.
Did the game fall behind schedule at some point near the end of the dev cycle? I ask because I seem to remember reading posts from various dev team members (and perhaps even some marketing folks) saying the game was either on or ahead of schedule. But then I look at things like the "mod kit", the dedicated server, bugged recording feature, etc. and it just doesn't add up.
Gameplay differences I can understand. That's the reality of contracting a team to create a game in a franchise that they're unfamiliar with. Having buggy or just outright missing functionality, on the other hand, is something entirely different.
Gameplay differences I can understand. That's the reality of contracting a team to create a game in a franchise that they're unfamiliar with. Having buggy or just outright missing functionality, on the other hand, is something entirely different.
Exactly. You prove my point. You appear to be a T1 fan (as am I) and so the original is the goal. This will piss off the T2 fans, who make up 70% of the fan base (or more).
And I'm not trying to be pissy, just pointing out that we oh so cleverly inserted ourselves between two waring groups. Think Germany and the USSR at the start of World War II, and Marweas and I decided that Poland was a good starting point.
I can live with that explanation. I'd have made a different choice but we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point. Whatever the outcome was, most of the game is fun on it's own and it was a good try.
As someone who was in the closed beta, I think this is pretty far off the mark. I remember more than a few big threads with unanimous feedback on what needed changing that were flat out ignored or contradicted by the dev team. Case in point: everyone and their grandma would be bitching for them to nerf the pod's armor. Then the next build would roll around and you'd find that they cut the cg's effectiveness against the pod by something like 60%. It just flat-out didn't make sense.
Needless to say, it's kind of ironic to see Blitz posting about these comp mods which read like a summary of the beta testers' forum. The public boards may have been a shit-fest, but a lot of the people in the closed beta had a decent head on their shoulders and a good feel for the game. They should have just listened to the people they (presumably) picked based on competence and given up on the fucking ridiculous approach of going out into a public shitstorm and posting retarded polls on what the average idiot thought should be done.
This is 100% right on the money.
The game didn't die in beta. The game died on the drawing board. By the time a beta rolls around for any game it's too late to implement the kind of feedback and advice that was necessary.