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Tarzul
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8881 - 10-17-2011, 10:50
so most of the complaints so far can be summarized by one picture:

 
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8882 - 10-17-2011, 10:52
at level 60 you raid the 5150 castle in blackrock mountain
 
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Serle
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8883 - 10-17-2011, 10:57
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at level 60 you raid the 5150 castle in blackrock mountain
Yesssssss
Is the boss an overzealous server admin?
 
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havax
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8884 - 10-17-2011, 11:04
no, boss is scott zier as tim meadows.
 
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8885 - 10-17-2011, 11:05
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no, boss is scott zier as tim meadows.
I don't think 5150 would let Scott Zier in their compound.
 
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8886 - 10-17-2011, 11:06
good point
 
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Old
8887 - 10-17-2011, 11:17
I really hope they've changed some things going from Alpha to Beta...
 
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Shiloh
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8888 - 10-17-2011, 11:22
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Pretty everything comes back to monetization... Until they change their minds on that they won't change their minds on their basic concepts. And the only way to change their minds on that is to not give them a single cent...
I disagree. I think loadouts could work okay. The problem is their idiot game designer's vision.

Imagine T1 with loadouts.
Loadout 1 - Disc, chain, blaster, epack
Loadout 2 - Disc, chain, plasma, shield pack
Loadout 3 - Disc, laser, elf, epack
Loadout 4 - Plasma, chain, grenade, shield pack

etc. That could work just fine. Its their idiot vision where everyone on the team does one thing and one thing only.
 
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disKreet
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8889 - 10-17-2011, 11:28
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at level 60 you raid the 5150 castle in blackrock mountain
I hear he has a special move that bans you from the castle.
 
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Durak
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8890 - 10-17-2011, 11:52
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I disagree. I think loadouts could work okay. The problem is their idiot game designer's vision.

Imagine T1 with loadouts.
Loadout 1 - Disc, chain, blaster, epack
Loadout 2 - Disc, chain, plasma, shield pack
Loadout 3 - Disc, laser, elf, epack
Loadout 4 - Plasma, chain, grenade, shield pack

etc. That could work just fine. Its their idiot vision where everyone on the team does one thing and one thing only.
no that's exactly the problem

if you increase the number of weapons per "class" you reduce the number of classes people can buy. hence they limit the number of weapons so that in order to use all of the weapons you need purchase more classes

if they changed their monetization scheme to something less restrictive, like say individual weapons, packs, maybe some kinds of "enhancers" like extra health kit or more forceful disk jump, but kept the number of weapons to 3+ per loadout it would alleviate our concerns

but as long as they are dead set on selling pre-defined classes, then their strategy will be "more classes = more money"
 
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8891 - 10-17-2011, 11:58
I think they also believe that if every class had a spinfusor, people would buy less classes because the spinfusor is awesome. They have pretty much ripped the heart and soul out of Tribes.

It sucks too because it seems like the art, programming, and sound is all fairly solid for the game. They just totally failed in the design department
 
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Bughead
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8892 - 10-17-2011, 11:59
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if they changed their monetization scheme to something less restrictive, like ... maybe some kinds of "enhancers" like extra health kit or more forceful disk jump
Oh hell naw.

HiRez already sucks enough. Don't give them any pay to win ideas.
 
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Aegis
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8893 - 10-17-2011, 12:01
They can keep their loadout system for all I care, as long as they remove every hitscan weapon from the game and have a disc/arx/AoE weapon as the primary in every loadout.
 
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8894 - 10-17-2011, 12:01
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if you increase the number of weapons per "class" you reduce the number of classes people can buy
combinations of 2 from 10 - Wolfram|Alpha
combinations of 3 from 10 - Wolfram|Alpha
 
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8895 - 10-17-2011, 12:04
I think that has been pointed out over and over again.
The people in charge of the decision just don't give a **** :<
 
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Shiloh
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8896 - 10-17-2011, 12:06
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no that's exactly the problem

if you increase the number of weapons per "class" you reduce the number of classes people can buy. hence they limit the number of weapons so that in order to use all of the weapons you need purchase more classes
you are simply 100% wrong.

and they aren't even close to stretching the number of loadouts with the weapons they already have. Almost every loadout has a unique primary weapon, and half the secondaries are unique.
 
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Oxyminoan
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8897 - 10-17-2011, 12:07
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Health regen is not going to change.. being f2p this means the game is more arcade-like and helps keep the action going.

FoV can be changed in game.

Grappler will not be in game.

Loadout system will not be changed... this goes back to my first point.

Speed cap most likely will not be changed, but I do see Disc Jump made stronger. The speed is already pretty fast, making it faster will just allow us to reach speeds which would dampen gameplay. Maps won't get bigger, but I see the OOB being pushed back some.

Weapon size will not change, it's already fine and doesn't change gameplay.

The other issues are meh.. maybe featured in full game but there are much bigger things to worry about than most of these "problems" (BUGS)

Overall Hi-Rez is doing a great job, only harp I have is the respawn timer and Disc jumping.. skiing feels great other than maybe a bit more control at high speeds. That is about it. The issues mentioned above are probably not going to change unless something crazy happens in beta.
Hey, Smurf. How about you go **** yourself?
 
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KyleReese
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8898 - 10-17-2011, 12:09
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shut the **** up newbs
 
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Aegis
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Old
8899 - 10-17-2011, 12:10
Something crazy will probably happen in beta. Everyone playing the game will tell HiRez it sucks, and HiRez will tell them they don't know what they are talking about. Crazy, right?
 
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Vir
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Old
8900 - 10-17-2011, 12:13
What if the cod people tell them it's amazing and it turns into tribes vs cod people. Who do you listen to!?
 
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