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161 - 01-23-2019, 20:44
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First thread with fantastic content in awhile. Thank you for that and your service!

How many people have you killed?
A metric ****ton
 
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i gotta b honest, y (apart from "bigly donor w/ a plastic factory staffed by nicaraguans in suburban olathe, ks needs my fat cat guv contract") wouldn't u just use some ching chang china style disposable cardboard mortar tubes like we use every ~JULY 4~
 
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Great thread, very sorry to hear about your wife. Did you ever partake in the July 14 parade on the champs élysées?
6 ****ing times...this is what I have ptsd from. It takes about 2 weeks to get your **** ready for Bastille Day. Our uniform has 13 evenly spaced fan shaped pleats on the back of the shirt that require Godlike skills to achieve. And by God these ****ing creases have to be ****ing perfect or you will marché canard for the rest of your contract. I have seen men cry after ****ing with these for 2 days trying to get it right.

And drill...and drill some more...and then when you think you can't drill anymore you drill some more because if anyone makes a misstep you embarrass the Regiment and Lord help the guy that embarrasses the Regiment.

On the plus side you were usually give 5 days liberty if you participated in the parade and the French girls would literally be throwing their panties at the Legionnaires so you are sure to get laid like 10 time at least.
 
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Second, when you returned from service and back to civ life, how did friends or others behave around you? Did friend behave as if you were out of town for a while and you were same old SC or was it a more reserved and cautious. Did it change each time, especially related to public opinion of Vietnam? What would you have preferred? When our buddy came back from Iraq he was struggling with PTSD (obvious in hindsight)but we didn't treat him different (**** talking, ****ing with, general dude shenanigans, etc). There were a few "events" but I like to think that not tip toeing around made it easier to come back. Knowing a bit more a bit PTSD now, I still wonder if perhaps we made it more difficult for him and its a regret.
I don't want to type out a TL;DR on this this one but please bear with me if I ramble...

When I left I told no one I was leaving. I just left. When I returned 27 years later, I contacted my Mother and my 2 sisters. That was it. I don't know why I contacted them as I had never written them. I did stay in touch with 2 people with the understanding that they were never to discuss my location with anyone. So long story short I made new friends when I got back.

I agree with you on the not ***** footing around. A fellow I know lost both legs in Afghanistan and he ****ing hates being treated like a victim. He's just a guy with no legs...BFD.
 
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I repped you with my thanks and light comments.

As for my question -

You have faced serious adversity in life and learned you had to make changes to be a functioning member of society, even if a bit different then the normal person. What do you think motivated to make these changes when many veterans do not, or just to go broader old ****s like vanster who refuse to change and live an obviously miserable life because of it?

I'm sure you knew some good guys in service who got in a rut at some point and never got out. Any good stories or just playing Russian roulette in Hanoi style endings?
I think the fact that I have to be the best at whatever I do made the transition easier for me once I had the maturity to understand what was expected of me as a human being. I know that sounds strange. I would have probably ended up a broken person if I had tried to just be a civilian again after Vietnam. I was too young and stupid to make good life choices. I could lead people in battle, think on my feet in combat, see the events playing out before me and be able to formulate a plan in seconds on the battlefield but I couldn't balance my cheque book if you know what I mean.

I had a much better handle on life after I left the Legion. Mature, confident, pretty arrogant but also driven to succeed at being a civilian. I don't know why it its so difficult for others. I think being a high speed guy for the last 10 years of my career gave me a mindset that I am the best and I can not be defeated at anything.

Sounds stupid but if you don't adapt to the world around you, you will fail.
 
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Have you considered leaving Canada for a more exotic/comfortable/harsher etc location?
I can live any place in the world I want and I still choose Canada. To me, even with all her faults, she is still the best place I have seen to live and raise a family and live your life the way you want to...but I think my country is now heading down a path that will eventually destroy the philosophy that built this country.

Almost everyone thinks their country is best country though...
 
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A metric ****ton
Over 100?
 
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over 9000
 
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When I was just regular infantry I had so much **** there was no need for. A stove...why in Gods name are you going to make me carry a ****ing stove? A travel iron...what am going to plug it in to...a currant bush FFS and I've never had to combat iron anything...ever.

Over the years I have worked with such quality items as "rugged laptops" that required you to carry 20 batteries to last 3 days. Sat comm systems that were great for watching porn on the laptop but couldn't comm **** all.

Field tested about a hundred different optics and weapon attachments that were said to be the next best thing only to be down to irons after 3 days.

The stupidest thing that was ever issued to us to use was a collapsible 60mm mortar tube made of some type of plastic. It weighed nothing which was cool but after 3 rounds the tube started to get "loose". After 5 or 6 rounds the tube was "mushy". I didn't have the balls to hold on to it longer than that.

The best gear I feel has been the advanced comms packages that were brought in when I was leaving. Small with headsets and ear protection. Advances in night vision were fantastic as well. By the early 90's we truly owned the night. Drone technology was in its infancy when I was in but few times we were able to have drone overwatch and real time intel almost made me feel bad for the bad guys.

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travel iron lmao

batteries man that is exactly the **** that pisses me off. it was probably worse back then since the tech has improved but to this day we're shipping off **** with a 6 hour battery life and three backups so it can meet a 24-hour uptime requirement. and there's always excuses about why we have to use this manufacturer and this os and these sw plugins and we might have to increase the load cap to 50 and i'm like jesus this is the entire point guys. it needs to be running to be useful.

sorry i have this death battle a few times a year with any pm who shows weakness, appreciate the time you took to reply
 
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Is there an official "Send to HoF" request button on this forum?
 
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6 ****ing times...this is what I have ptsd from. It takes about 2 weeks to get your **** ready for Bastille Day. Our uniform has 13 evenly spaced fan shaped pleats on the back of the shirt that require Godlike skills to achieve. And by God these ****ing creases have to be ****ing perfect or you will marché canard for the rest of your contract. I have seen men cry after ****ing with these for 2 days trying to get it right.

And drill...and drill some more...and then when you think you can't drill anymore you drill some more because if anyone makes a misstep you embarrass the Regiment and Lord help the guy that embarrasses the Regiment.

On the plus side you were usually give 5 days liberty if you participated in the parade and the French girls would literally be throwing their panties at the Legionnaires so you are sure to get laid like 10 time at least.
That's amazing, I grew up in Paris and we never missed the parade. I was always impressed by the légionnaires with their axes and leather apron. You guys where the most bass ass.

Chances are that I applauded you. Ever planing on coming back to Europe?
 
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I have read about the FFL and even considered joining at a time. Was Military Regularization of Service implimented in your time, or was that process you mentioned at the end to segue how Legionaires reacclimated to their old life?

What was the most reviled background of any of your Legion mates, did you have any guys running from bad ****?

Was Legion training still super brutal in your day? I have heard stories about death in training, something like 1 in 10 in the earlier days, does that sound remotely correct?

Finalment, le francias vous prizez est tres bien. :thumbup:

You're a badass, thanks for all you've done to make the world better.
 
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I can live any place in the world I want and I still choose Canada. To me, even with all her faults, she is still the best place I have seen to live and raise a family and live your life the way you want to...but I think my country is now heading down a path that will eventually destroy the philosophy that built this country.

Almost everyone thinks their country is best country though...
Amen brother

I wish it was +15 instead of -15 but I'll have a hard time living anywhere other than here

Planning on retiring in canmore/some sleepy small mountain town myself in a decade or two
 
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That's amazing, I grew up in Paris and we never missed the parade. I was always impressed by the légionnaires with their axes and leather apron. You guys where the most bass ass.

Chances are that I applauded you. Ever planing on coming back to Europe?
You're talking about the Pioneers. They march at the head of all Legion parade formations. All Pioneers have to have a beard at all times. The Legion also marches at the back of all Military parades.

I use to go back every couple of years because of women and ****ing shopping and looking at old stuff. No plans to return now.
 
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I'm curious as to why you joined the USMC as a Canadian. The Canadians did have troops in Vietnam, why not join one of those branches and serve that way?

Which unit were you in when you were in Hue? Which parts of the fighting were you involved in? I recently read a book on the battle of Hue, if you were in that ****storm, kudos for surviving that.

For the rest of the unenlightened, the book is called "Hue 1968" by Mark Bowden, same author that did Black Hawk Down. Amazing account of the battle at Hue during Tet.
 
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I have read about the FFL and even considered joining at a time. Was Military Regularization of Service implimented in your time, or was that process you mentioned at the end to segue how Legionaires reacclimated to their old life?

What was the most reviled background of any of your Legion mates, did you have any guys running from bad ****?

Was Legion training still super brutal in your day? I have heard stories about death in training, something like 1 in 10 in the earlier days, does that sound remotely correct?

Finalment, le francias vous prizez est tres bien. :thumbup:

You're a badass, thanks for all you've done to make the world better.
Military regularization was just being implemented when I left so I can't really speak to that. In my time we were still allowed to obtain French citizenship under your l'anonymat. I know this is not the case now.

It is an unwritten rule that you don't ask a fellow Legionnaire about his background. Everyone is equal. I have heard stories about bank robbers and the such joining to gain a new identity but that can't happen now. Recruit lists and for that matter all member lists are regularly checked against Interpol wanted lists and the Gestapo now crawls so far up your ass they will find out everything you are hiding from.

In the olden days you were more likely to die in training or being punished than you were in combat. In my time we lost between 100 and 150 people a year to training accidents. Again training was not much different in the beginning than it was in the Corps. There is a much higher emphasis on running though and rope climbing. Once you are in a Regiment though things ramp up pretty hard. I was at the top of my recruit class physically but felt like I was always running drag for my first 3 months in a regiment.
 
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I'm curious as to why you joined the USMC as a Canadian. The Canadians did have troops in Vietnam, why not join one of those branches and serve that way?

Which unit were you in when you were in Hue? Which parts of the fighting were you involved in? I recently read a book on the battle of Hue, if you were in that ****storm, kudos for surviving that.

For the rest of the unenlightened, the book is called "Hue 1968" by Mark Bowden, same author that did Black Hawk Down. Amazing account of the battle at Hue during Tet.
I don't think Canada had troops in Vietnam until like 73 or 74...after the peace accord there were some peacekeepers. I joined in late '67 so army or marines were my only options.

I was officially 26th Marine Regiment but because I couldn't get back to Khe Sanh after the siege started I was plugged into the 1st of the 1st. I was part of the fighting at the MACV compound and then moved into the city and we just went were bad guys were which was pretty much every building. I got wounded a second time at the hospital and then I was out of that fight until it was over.

edit: There were about 25 to 30 thousand Canadians that joined all branches of the US military during the war. and roughly 15,000 were combat soldiers. Those that joined after about mid 1969 were usually given non combat assignments.
 
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I don't think Canada had troops in Vietnam until like 73 or 74...after the peace accord there were some peacekeepers. I joined in late '67 so army or marines were my only options.

I was officially 26th Marine Regiment but because I couldn't get back to Khe Sanh after the siege started I was plugged into the 1st of the 1st. I was part of the fighting at the MACV compound and then moved into the city and we just went were bad guys were which was pretty much every building. I got wounded a second time at the hospital and then I was out of that fight until it was over.

edit: There were about 25 to 30 thousand Canadians that joined all branches of the US military during the war. and roughly 15,000 were combat soldiers. Those that joined after about mid 1969 were usually given non combat assignments.
Thanks, having read about the fighting in the places you mentioned I'm doubly impressed.
While I had known about Tet, the narrative was always that it was a massive military defeat for the North Vietnamese, but there wasn't much talk about the actual battles in places like Hue. General Westmoreland at that time kept insisting that the real fight was going to be at Khe Sanh, that everything else was a diversion. What a moron. Thank God he got reassigned. The fighting in and around Hue went on for weeks and accounted for most of the US military's casualties. While the rest of the offensive died out rather quickly, Hue (not Tet) proved to be the battle that changed public opinion of our involvement in Vietnam.
In the book the description of the house to house fighting was especially brutal.
Again, Kudos to you for serving, even volunteering, at that time in US history.
 
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LOL...a bunch of us were reading a paper someone got sent from home about how we were just doing mop ups and how we were kicking the enemy's ass all over the place. We all looked at each other almost simultaneously and started laughing.
 
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other than me, who is your favourite TW poster?
 
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