Teh Gerald R. Ford Supercarrier - Mankind's First!

To elaborate: Carriers never travel alone. They are in "carrier groups" which has a variety of ships designed to take out any plane, missile, or sub. (Also subs travel with carrier groups) If you think the Navy would be so poorly defended you are fooling yourself.
 
If you want one of those dots you should work for it. Those of us who already have a dot because we worked for it, want a super carrier.
 
For the price of 200,000 homes it better be able to fly away and make my supper.

yeah we weren't already talking about it in another thread. Sperglord wanted to make sure he got the appropriate attention.

Cliffs: shut the fuck up ellen
I get that you feel gratitude about the army helping you to avoid shitheadedness, but shouldn't you cut a schmuck like me a little slack cause I'm wondering why $200 of our weekly goes out to this bs.

As for attention - I use this place as a soundboard to shake some things out, I'm not at all afraid of sharing any opinion I have - gives me more notoriety than I want, ffs perha butthurt fag gots (u know who you) dont' even post in my threads.

I just think you yank me crank me types need to be constantly hit/bashed/ curmudgeoned over the head with the complete and outrageously ridiculous price of all ur toys. It costs households like mine bank so you'll have to forgive my belligerence cause the taxpayer isn't getting any luv - and too often blowback.

Poor people are envious of everything...
ur a welder who inherited daddy's business. Makes a cutting board of squares (did this in Gr10) posts about this gift! :lol:

BTW you did a shit job repairing that broken tooth since all the metal around the crack would have been fatigued. It should of been cut out, new metal put in and then welded. Finished off with some 1/2" plate welded to the outside.

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^ new song, same dance.

It's hard to delineate between socialism and statism but I think we both agree that the state has gone apeshit.
 
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To elaborate: Carriers never travel alone. They are in "carrier groups" which has a variety of ships designed to take out any plane, missile, or sub. (Also subs travel with carrier groups) If you think the Navy would be so poorly defended you are fooling yourself.

Surface ships are fish food in the age of the diesel-electric submarine. Sorry.
 
Scooby actually thinks a giant carrier would survive against supersonic missles or subs

Guy is a moron
 
the lolerplane:

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$4,000,000,000.00 that's $4Bn for a plane way to go for cutting some price off that lolo

Can't imagine how you could spend that much though. The how of it boggles the mind. I don't think they'd
use tons of gold to drive the price up, so it must be .. well I dunno. I just dunno how to spend $4Bn on a plane.
Maybe it has front line capabilities?
 
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You can't defend surface ships against a modern diesel-electric submarine with modern torpedoes. These things make no sound and are undetectable by sonar due to coating and electric fields and magnets. They can stay submerged for weeks, too. The only thing you can even ostensibly hope to do is stop torpedoes with torpedo nets, but that's really all you can hope for. This has been shown over and over and over again in any wargame the USN has held, and the USS Kitty Hawk was embarrassed by the Chinese in 06 when a Chinese sub popped up within kill distance of the carrier. The role of the modern carrier seems to basically be a sea bully, especially against technologically/industrially less advanced nations. No real military application in an actual war, from what I can tell.
 
It's right there in the Preamble: provide for the common defense. It was considered important enough to be listed just before promote the general welfare. Lets look at the federal budget...

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Huh, looks like we spent four times as much on general welfare as on the military last year.

More more more, you fucking whiner.
 
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No real military application in an actual war, from what I can tell.


If you go right to nukes, I agree. Any other scenario and it's a valuable asset. But you're way smart so I'll let the defense department know you disapprove.
 
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