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A polygraph is not a routine part of the background investigation, but is a requirement for certain agencies/positions.
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Originally, no, I didn't need to undergo a polygraph test, but for a specifc job I filled in Iraq I needed to go through (and pass) a counterintel polygraph. Once you have it, though, it's good for a couple years.

And, you're right, S and TS are levels of clearance and the SCI/G/HCS/ are all caveats to it. Add-ons if you will depending on what's necessary for your job.
Awesome, thats what I thought.

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Maybe a confidential or secret clearance is cheap becasue they just do an electronic search to see if you popped up on any databases, but a TS requires a lot of manpower and cost.
yeah, doesn't cost anything to get secret clearance. of course we may fall into a small business exception - larger companies may need to pay something, but i don't believe it's much.
 
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My number may be high but it absolutely way more more tha 4-6k especially when you have a slightly challenging investigation. the cost is why a lot of companies will not sponsor a new investigation when they can poach government people or military that already have active clearances. The cost is in the manpower to process the applications, adudication and the investigation process. it costs a lot of money to send the agents out to talk to friends, family, neighbors. When you throw in a poly, it goes up even higher.

Maybe a confidential or secret clearance is cheap becasue they just do an electronic search to see if you popped up on any databases, but a TS requires a lot of manpower and cost.
I am an OPM investigator and it is my job to do the fieldwork on the case. The cost for a background investigation is either a flat fee, or in some cases the cost depends on the amount of fieldwork scheduled. The difficulty of the investigation or the man hours spent working the case does not significantly affect the price of the investigation. I am not familiar with the costs outside of the field investigation.
 
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What he said, TS requires a lot more leg work for the investigators.
 
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Join the Army and get a job that requires it, then get medically chaptered out and get the job you really want.
 
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mine expires in August
 
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Any of you have this? Where can I get one and how much does it cost?

I know theres a few of you that are govt. contractors.
If you work for a private company they will set you up, if you work as a contractor directly to the government or for the government they will fix you up.

ALL Public Trust, S, TS clearances go through the government.
 
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I am an OPM investigator and it is my job to do the fieldwork on the case. The cost for a background investigation is either a flat fee, or in some cases the cost depends on the amount of fieldwork scheduled. The difficulty of the investigation or the man hours spent working the case does not significantly affect the price of the investigation. I am not familiar with the costs outside of the field investigation.
Quick question for you, if you do the field work...

why are you all such dbags? i can't imagine any of the ones i've interviewed with being any fun at all, although I'ms ure they are and its just an act at the job...

can you elaborate?
 
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Going through my clearance **** right now for the Navy, pain in the ass, have to do a psych eval and all kinds of ****.

Also it costs anywhere from 80-100g's to get a clearance, so at doing it yourself.
 
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Are these "licenses to kill"? Like if I paid for one for myself, could I just go off people like James Bond or Matt Damon?
 
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Are these "licenses to kill"? Like if I paid for one for myself, could I just go off people like James Bond or Matt Damon?


Everything is seperated into compartments. Basically you get to know about the Top Secret events of one specific thing and that's about all your clearance is good for. So if you build fighter jets the only thing your TS is good for is the jets you actually work on, everything else is off limits.
 
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Everything is seperated into compartments. Basically you get to know about the Top Secret events of one specific thing and that's about all your clearance is good for. So if you build fighter jets the only thing your TS is good for is the jets you actually work on, everything else is off limits.
Everything is based off Need to know.
 
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Basically what I said
 
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So I could kill people related to my job, but not outside it?
 
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The PDF I posted pretty much answers everything.
 
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tell us about roswell once you get it
 
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Quick question for you, if you do the field work...

why are you all such dbags? i can't imagine any of the ones i've interviewed with being any fun at all, although I'ms ure they are and its just an act at the job...

can you elaborate?
I don't know. I try to have fun and keep things as informal as the job allows. I heard the investigator who did my background actually cornered my friends as he questioned them. I am 26 and so I can't really speak for the other investigators, most of which are about 15+ years older than I am.
 
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Pretty much, either work for the government in a capacity that requires one, or work for a company that does government contracts, and have them 'put you in' on one. The process can take months or years, depending. Being active on TW probably won't help.
 
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Anyone who claimed to have a clearance will be kidnapped soon.
 
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If you actually are sponsored - enjoy filling out your e-QIP.
the one that was created for windows 3.1?? That was so much fun!
 
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