Using it sparingly is much more effective than using it half the time. There are people that say nothing but sarcasm-- which is fine and satisfying, but only from their perspective. The people they want to reach have become vaccinated against it, even those they agree with.
In forum-speak, people that are sarcastic a lot, get scrolled by more than any other kind of poster. Let me use one of my online foes as an example (sorry Fool):
Fool will post his points, and occasionally rhetoric, but basically is trying to cement his position by explaining it. Every once in a while, he'll say something sarcastic, and when he does, everyone takes notice. His own side will erupt, I will either be irritated, amused, but it's almost guaranteed I notice, and am likely to comment.
The people that post sarcasm in every post, have no idea they are on mental ignore by everyone.
They weren't expecting to be here. They were supposed to have 8 years to come up with Hillary's heir. She still wants to run, she wants to be president. Bernie will be way too old, and the DNC doesn't really want a socialist progressive anyway, they just want the votes. Same for Warren, who won't hold up under national scrutiny anyway. Booker is someone they're trying to pretend is Obama 2.0, but he doesn't have the charm or charisma. Oprah and the Rock are them floating celebrity ideas because of Trump's celebrity status. Now they're going deep and trying to reuse the Kennedy name. In the end my guess will be they'll nominate Kamala Harris.
How is a country with 7% the GDP of the US of the A a threat to the US of the A? Russia's GDP is smaller than Canukistans yet you thing Russia is a threat?
Please explain. But itt :ftard: and can't put up so he'll stfu.
1) Intelligence agencies unanimously concluded, along with bipartisan leadership in the Senate and House, that Russia mounted an aggressive influence campaign to help elect the current president of the United States. Not bad for a country with 7% of the United States' GDP, effectively installing their handpicked choice for president in the world's most powerful country.
2) We have midterm elections coming up in 9 months and the Trump administration has done absolutely nothing to address the issue of Russian meddling, all while there is total consensus from both parties regarding the reality of this threat. Trump's own CIA director (Pompeio) has repeatedly confirmed that Russia is plotting a similar influence campaign this year. Meanwhile, Trump categorically refuses to acknowledge that Russian meddling ever happened.
3) Do you think Putin helped Trump out of the kindness of his heart? Putin has tremendous, glaringly obvious influence over this administration and yet none of you will allow yourselves to admit it. Trump praises Putin at every opportunity. Trump unilaterally failed to enact the sanctions against Russia which congress overwhelmingly passed with 419-3 and 98-2 votes in the House and Senate respectively. Trump was reluctant to sign them into law and although he was forced to sign them, he ultimately did nothing to slap them on his best buddy.
4) You must have all forgotten that we started with "I don't know anybody in Russia or anything about Russia." Jeff Sessions perjured himself during his congressional testimony after denying contacts with Sergei Kislyak under oath. Mike Flynn and Jared Kushner repeatedly lied on their security clearance applications and had to amend their Russian contacts multiple times. Paul Manafort... there is no limit to what will be unveiled when his curtain is finally pulled back for everyone to see. Flynn has since pleaded guilty and is a cooperating witness in the Mueller investigation along with George Papadopoulos. Rick Gates appears to be negotiating a plea deal with Mueller as well.
The Russian ties go on and on and on.
It turns out that when 95% of one country's meager GDP is consolidated in the hands of a few dozen powerful men, it is clearly very possible to mount a grave threat to a country like the United States, especially when their military is capable of mutually assured destruction.
While you all cheer Trump along because you think he talks good and you like how he trolls liberals, he and Putin have hollowed out the State Department, passed $1.5-trillion deficit tax cuts which primarily favor the rich, deregulated banks and Wall Street to once again run roughshod until the next financial crisis and subsequent bailouts, they've shredded environmental regulations which keep things like our drinking water safe and national parks beautiful, opened up offshore drilling exploration along the entire US coastline (oh, except you Florida), stoked paralyzing political division among US citizens, enflamed anti-American attitudes around the globe (particularly in Muslim countries), provoked North Korea with belligerent language and apocalyptic threats, etc etc etc.
These are all deliberate assaults on the very foundations of what make America so uniquely exceptional. When we lose these things, we lose our very identity. We become weaker as a nation, and that is precisely the plan being carried out right now by your beloved president. Every time we knock ourselves down a peg, Russia is one peg closer to us, and I'm watching my countrymen cheer them along each time we move down another notch.
Odds are good that you think I am a complete and total moron. Tell me where I'm wrong. I am outnumbered here, but as a patriot I am compelled to at least put it all out on the table and make my argument. In the end, history will be the judge of who is right and wrong.
I'd prefer to be told exactly how, and not simply take their word for it. So far the only influence I've been informed of is a few hundred thousand dollars spent on Facebook and Twitter ads. Nobody has yet to explain how many people swapped their votes because of that, or how that is more effective than 2 billion dollars spent by the Clinton campaign.
I'd prefer to be told exactly how, and not simply take their word for it. So far the only influence I've been informed of is a few hundred thousand dollars spent on Facebook and Twitter ads. Nobody has yet to explain how many people swapped their votes because of that, or how that is more effective than 2 billion dollars spent by the Clinton campaign.
also some anti-virus software being from Russia and an IP dress pinging a polling location in Florida some place....:lol:
i am supposed to just accept the findings of the intelligence agencies who are now provably corrupted, biased, or filled with hacks and hard ons for other deep state interests
people like the three dolts run out of the FBI this year, Comey, and James Clapper
exactly what proof is there that Russia meddled in our election?
cool story until you realize that all 17 were named James Clapper and he was speaking (incorrectly) for all of them with his one broken and highly biased narrative that was later refuted
I'm still looking for this Russia connection........there is nothing on that either from what I can see. Only thing I see with less involvement is this Trump-Russia collusion they still can't seem to come up with one ounce of anything over.
Sadly AsCotiA just repeats one bogus claim after another to justify his entirely distorted outlook on this country, their country, and our entire electoral process. They say an idiot is conned every second......but as a burned out Bernie bot he just seems to be stuck in a for loop of fail.
Someone desperately needs to update his firmware already
Mike Flynn and Jared Kushner repeatedly lied on their security clearance applications and had to amend their Russian contacts multiple times. Paul Manafort... there is no limit to what will be unveiled when his curtain is finally pulled back for everyone to see. Flynn has since pleaded guilty and is a cooperating witness in the Mueller investigation along with George Papadopoulos. Rick Gates appears to be negotiating a plea deal with Mueller as well.
this guy thinks that any of the mueller indictments (not convictions) have anything to do with Russia and isn't about money laundering, tax evasion, and lying under oath (in that order)
at best there is political work with a group you could say is pro-russia, but at that point this is guilty by 3rd party association based on work that predated being with Trump and that is even lamer given where steele and gps fusion were actively getting their source funding and biased dossier information from
You are as desperate as you are pathetic and selective in your fabricated sense of reality and what has already happened around you
I'd prefer to be told exactly how, and not simply take their word for it. So far the only influence I've been informed of is a few hundred thousand dollars spent on Facebook and Twitter ads. Nobody has yet to explain how many people swapped their votes because of that, or how that is more effective than 2 billion dollars spent by the Clinton campaign.
You will never get the exact answer you want because the exact number of flipped votes is intrinsically immeasurable. I'll do my best to provide some tangible examples though.
Facebook has admitted that Russian propaganda in some shape or form reached as many as 126 million users. The power of Facebook ad-targeting combined with relatively low cost made their social media efforts extraordinarily effective. That doesn't mean they changed 126 million minds, half of those people probably scrolled right past whatever propaganda made it onto their screen. However, I think it's reasonable to suggest that perhaps just 1-3% of those people may have been sitting on the fence and could be potentially swayed one way or the other. That is hypothetically as many as a few million votes right there.
Russians, according to the intelligence agencies, were also responsible for hacking the DNC, giving rise to Pizzagate, along with a slow-drip of damaging information about Hillary and her associates all the way until election day (I hate Hillary btw, just telling the truth). These hacks ultimately gave rise to the FBI reopening the email investigation less than 2 weeks before the election. This alone may be what have tipped the scales into Trump's favor at exactly the right time.
Trump may not have spent as much money as Hillary, but the amount of free press he was able to generate with his rhetoric and behavior was also valued in the billions. He, to his credit, essentially figured out a way to game the system.
Memo: No FISA warrant without Dossier. Which means no Russia collusion story without Dossier. Which means no Mueller special counsel without Dossier paid for by Clinton/DNC. Shut it down.
Facebook has admitted that Russian propaganda in some shape or form reached as many as 126 million users. The power of Facebook ad-targeting combined with relatively low cost made their social media efforts extraordinarily effective. That doesn't mean they changed 126 million minds, half of those people probably scrolled right past whatever propaganda made it onto their screen.
this is how beyond sad, desperate, and pathetic your side of the political debate has become..........and just when i don't think it could get any worse you guys figure out how to double down all over again
we can't let foreigners like Sean Hannity meddle in our election and attempts to get globalist open borders where only DACA and illegal immigrant votes and foreign funding from Saudi Arabia matters
You're wrong, the DNC was not hacked by Russians according to the intelligence agencies. They have never been permitted to see the DNC servers. They concur with the findings of Crowdstrike, a company hired by the DNC to investigate, but have not conducted a true investigation of their own. And as Tele stated, the 17 agencies bullshit was just that. If the Russian hacking is to be taken seriously, why was the supposed primary piece of evidence never examined by any official agency ever?
You are right that I will never be given that answer, because it's impossible to state for certain. That's the whole point. You can't state with any certainty that any votes were swayed by any or all efforts that were attributed to Russian interference. The DNC, Hillary, Obama, and the media certainly didn't seem to think it was worth their time or energy before they lost the election.
this guy thinks that any of the mueller indictments (not convictions) have anything to do with Russia and isn't about money laundering, tax evasion, and lying under oath (in that order)
at best there is political work with a group you could say is pro-russia, but at that point this is guilty by 3rd party association based on work that predated being with Trump and that is even lamer given where steele and gps fusion were actively getting their source funding and biased dossier information from
You are as desperate as you are pathetic and selective in your fabricated sense of reality and what has already happened around you
We live in alternate realities, and that's ok. I'm not going to attempt to change your mind. I'll let history be the judge because with your output rate, there just isn't enough time in the day to type out all the reasons why I think you're wrong. You're entitled to your opinion and I'll leave it at that.
I know what people who are telling the truth look like and sound like. Those people are squarely on one side of this debate. If you want to clutch onto Carter Page, Devin Nunes, and your lord and savior Trump, there's nothing I can do to stop you.
You're wrong, the DNC was not hacked by Russians according to the intelligence agencies. They have never been permitted to see the DNC servers. They concur with the findings of Crowdstrike, a company hired by the DNC to investigate, but have not conducted a true investigation of their own. And as Tele stated, the 17 agencies bullshit was just that. If the Russian hacking is to be taken seriously, why was the supposed primary piece of evidence never examined by any official agency ever?
You are right that I will never be given that answer, because it's impossible to state for certain. That's the whole point. You can't state with any certainty that any votes were swayed by any or all efforts that were attributed to Russian interference. The DNC, Hillary, Obama, and the media certainly didn't seem to think it was worth their time or energy before they lost the election.
and when you demand to see the actual proof, of anything, ever, you have the same DNC people screaming that showing us that info will destroy our Democracy, undermine our country, hurt our intelligence agencies, and just further make Putin happy........
I mean :lol: what a shitshow politics has become at this point
the DNC says if Trump fires anyone else there will be a "Constitutional Crisis"
like we aren't in the middle of one of those right now
John O. Brennan said:
I had many fights with Congressional Dems over the years on national security matters. But I never witnessed the type of reckless partisan behavior I am now seeing from Nunes and House Republicans. Absence of moral and ethical leadership in WH is fueling this government crisis.
Adam Schiff said:
The decision by Nunes to employ an obscure rule to release classified information for partisan political purposes crossed a dangerous line, and increases the risk of a constitutional crisis and another Saturday Night Massacre.
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