I give up. This has been further proof that message boards are not the place for philosophical conversations. The internet gives millions of faceless, insecure people a way to provide their thoughts to the world while being detached enough not to have to take any rebuttal seriously.
I'm telling you the world is filled with millions of colors, you're telling me it's black and white. It's irrational ignorance and ego mania all rolled up into one.
Peace.
Are you claiming that excluding religion altogether makes the situation you describe completely different?How telling is it that the only way to make sure your kids believe in the same things you do is to make it their base of relating to the world before they gain the ability to exercise independent judgement?
I was under the impression we were discussing philosophy, under which an entire spectrum of color is assembled, not physics. We might touch a little on metaphysics, but that's a different thing entirely.Well I wasn't getting involved with the back and forth between the two of you but touching on this post to say that in fact yes there is only black and white. Matter and Energy. There are millions of forms but it still boils down to those two concepts.
I was under the impression we were discussing philosophy, under which an entire spectrum of color is assembled, not physics. We might touch a little on metaphysics, but that's a different thing entirely.
I give up. This has been further proof that message boards are not the place for philosophical conversations. The internet gives millions of faceless, insecure people a way to provide their thoughts to the world while being detached enough not to have to take any rebuttal seriously.
I'm telling you the world is filled with millions of colors, you're telling me it's black and white. It's irrational ignorance and ego mania all rolled up into one.
Peace.
Well, they aren't mutually exclusive, but physics is no a branch of philosophy. At any rate, I get your point. Allow me to backtrack and clarify:Umm physics is a branch of philosophy. It is all interrelated.
Well, they aren't mutually exclusive, but physics is no a branch of philosophy. At any rate, I get your point. Allow me to backtrack and clarify:
The thread started as a conversation about religion, which addresses so many aspects of philosophy. And while it does technically involve physics, (as their is no room for God in physics) this involvement can be dismissed 100% on the grounds that to believe in God is to believe physics exist, and he is the only thing that can break them/ignore them. Therefore, any arguments involving physics are futile.
There is the Philosophy of Physics, and there is Physics, the Natural Science. The things that led to physics were part of Natural Philosophy, but as physics began to take form it could no longer be called philosophy. There are countless books on physics and philosophy, because they were born of the same schools of thought, but one is not part of the other. You can thank the Scientific Revolution for that.physics falls under the category of "natural philosophy"
and you people are delusional about what the term God means if you think that there is no room in physics for the concept
Oooo... here's the problem. WHen you said you were staying out of our conversation you meant that you had no idea what it was about. We weren't discussing the existence of God, we were talking about how best to enlighten those who are slaves to religions such as Christianity.Do you agree that science is a branch of philosophy? If you do then by extension so is physics.
Philosophy of physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If only matter and energy exist in the real world and the claim is that God is neither matter nor energy, then God cannot possibly exist in the real world. If God is of matter and energy then God is subject to the scientific method. There are other issues such as logical consistency but all of this has been touched on in the thread.
Oooo... here's the problem. WHen you said you were staying out of our conversation you meant that you had no idea what it was about. We weren't discussing the existence of God, we were talking about how best to enlighten those who are slaves to religions such as Christianity.
I was telling Happy that he can't tell a Christian, "You have no facts, evidence, and no reason to believe in God" and have them immediately convert. He was claiming either "Tough shit thats how i do it" or "Yes you can."
i dont do that... rather i present evidence from the religion that is a contradiction against itself. there is no better way to win an argument against someones ideology imo
This is where I misunderstood. If winning arguments is all you're after, I take no issue with how you go about it: it's your ego, stroke it. However, if you ar looking to educate people, you suck at it.i dont do that... rather i present evidence from the religion that is a contradiction against itself. there is no better way to win an argument against someones ideology imo