There is a difference in being a casual good/exceptional guild and a casual mediocre/underperforming guild. The difference is that the raiders take the time to make the fairly light commitment of logging in for raid nights and gemming/enchanting properly.I didn't say they were a problem.
I said they weren't "laid back".
The idea of stringent apps just helps prevent people who would not make the effort from even getting their foot inside the door. If you just open your eyes in raids you can see the people who actually put in the effort and those that tag along for the epics.