[Haiti] Danny Glover is as retarded as Pat Robertson

Who's to say it didn't?

I'm going to pull out the same card that "skeptics" of climate change use all the fucking time and say "we understand so little about the earth and how climate affects it" that who are we to rule out that warming of the planet could lead to increased (or more violent) seismic activity?

I still wouldn't have made such a statement if I were Danny Glover, but as skeptics, including the OP would say, "we simply don't know". I mean, how much faith can we really have in our climate models and their accuracy, RIGHT GUYS??!

There could be a relationship there, just like there could be a chance that mans ridiculous pollution of the atmosphere has nothing to do with the planets warming, and just like the rapid change we're seeing in the environment could actually be completely natural and it's just a coincidence that man industralized in the last 100 years.

Just saying.
 
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Who's to say it didn't?

I'm going to pull out the same card that "skeptics" of climate change use all the fucking time and say "we understand so little about the earth and how climate affects it" that who are we to rule out that warming of the planet could lead to increased (or more violent) seismic activity?

I still wouldn't have made such a statement if I were Danny Glover, but as skeptics, including the OP would say, "we simply don't know". I mean, how much faith can we really have in our climate models and their accuracy, RIGHT GUYS??!

There could be a relationship there, just like there could be a chance that mans ridiculous pollution of the atmosphere has nothing to do with the planets warming, and just like the rapid change we're seeing in the environment could actually be completely natural and it's just a coincidence that man industralized in the last 100 years.

Just saying.

And what of the mainstream media that refuses to cover this possibility? God Bless Danny Glover for saying what the government and corporations are afraid to talk about.

Not that I'm saying it's true, but just throwing it out there.
 
Who's to say it didn't?

Just saying.
People who don't like to make uninformed wild ass guesses. I would think the complete lack of any empirical scientific data relating climate change and earthquakes would be enough.

But keep pontificating on it in the name of intellectual discourse, maybe you'll kick start a few brain cells and realize all the shit you say is utter nonsense.
 
And we can't rule out the Devil's involvement in this, right Monkey_b? I mean, given how little we know about him, there could have been a pact, and this could be some sort of Satanic voodoo magic. Or maybe Satan is pleased with our efforts to industrialize this planet, and this is his way of giving humans a pat on the back? We just don't know!!
 
Danny Glover has always been an idiot. Climate change has always been around, it's just being used to make money now.
 
regardless if we are the cause of climate change or not, dumping millions of tons of pollution into the environment every year is not awesome and any attempt to decrease our waste output as a whole is not as bad as big business would like you to believe
 
People who don't like to make uninformed wild ass guesses. I would think the complete lack of any empirical scientific data relating climate change and earthquakes would be enough.

And we can't rule out the Devil's involvement in this, right Monkey_b? I mean, given how little we know about him, there could have been a pact, and this could be some sort of Satanic voodoo magic. Or maybe Satan is pleased with our efforts to industrialize this planet, and this is his way of giving humans a pat on the back? We just don't know!!
Thanks for validating my point.

Given we have a pretty good understanding of the planets climate system only a complete delusional retard would suggest that the rapid environmental changes we're observing have little (if anything at all) to do with man, and that until we discover ALL UNKNOWNS we can't rule out the possibility that it's all completely natural and that we shouldn't take any action until we know for sure

It's on par with Waidan suggesting that you can't rule out whether or not I signed a pact with the devil, or that inaction at copenhagen is the reason for the haiti earthquake... because you can't unprove it, kind of like god.
 
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Monkey_b, stop. I believe global warming is happen. But your idea is fucking retarded. We have a pretty good idea on what factors go into earthquake, and atmospheric conditions don't mean shit.
 
I think you're missing my point Wowbagger. If you can subscribe to the skeptics line of thinking in suggesting that "we cant rule out" the possibility that the planets rapid environmental changes have zero to do with man, then you can't really lambast danny glover for trying to draw a link between atmospheric conditions and earthquakes, because "we cant rule out" that possibility either.

Both notions are equally absurd if you put any stock into our understanding of the Earths climate system, so I thought Icey starting this thread was ironic since he and his kind always use the unknowns to validate their skepticism.
 
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I think the criticism of Robertson/Glover is misguided because it assumes they are stating logically merited positions rather than making sales pitches in light of the "opportunity of a crisis" (cf. the misreading of a Chinese character ). Both Robertson and any political actor in the US are pragmatists, using events to further their cause because crises demand public relations coverage.

Robertson is a straight up Friedmanist, after the economist, because ostensibly God is a "free-market" Capitalist (the fact that the New Testament declares otherwise, notwithstanding). Glover is a barker for a cause. There's a slight difference. But I suppose both want people to open up their checkbooks.
 
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