Fixious - Yesterday at 5:01 PM
@groov gettin caught up in the midair drama :eyes:
groov - Yesterday at 5:02 PM
ugh i just think that locked thread was handled really badly, especially by hob
like, people were literally throwing personal insults at WW and yet he wasn't doing it back
and then the thread gets locked after hob throws around more insults
cuz hob clearly wanted the last word
and the moose is saying it got locked cuz of WW personally insulting ppl lol
it was actually imo a really great example of the willful ignorance that WW was talking about
like, ppl can shit on him and no one says anything, but when he defends himself he's the asshole
Fixious - Yesterday at 5:05 PM
this the first 'tribes' game with such a heated battle between base and LT players?
usually its just player base vs devs, but now theres a whole new argument
groov - Yesterday at 5:05 PM
i mean, on the topic of the thread i dont think its the LT or the base players that are to blame because no one pubs
but i think its equally ignorant to say blame some rando who opens the game for the first time
sees empty servers and leaves
just as much as its not the LT guys not wanting to base that are to blame
its that base isnt finished and isn't balanced
so its not a fun experience for anything, thats why its not played imo
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:07 PM
I love some drama
So were actual ma staff talking crap?
or just LT guys.
playing in pugs
Fixious - Yesterday at 5:08 PM
it was a mod
devs are silent on the issue, per usual
groov - Yesterday at 5:08 PM
nastyhobbit, moose and slush were all throwing insults around, WW pointed it out and argued against them
and then hob replied in imo a not mod-worthy kind of way
and locked the thread
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:08 PM
What type of insults?
groov - Yesterday at 5:09 PM
the exact quote i kinda took issue with was this one:
"nobody is interested in your cringey chest beating attempts"(edited)
a mod really shouldnt reply like that imo, and then he locked the thread which looked even worse
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:10 PM
Sounds like a fun Sunday.
is WW a good guy?
should we rally for em
groov - Yesterday at 5:10 PM
i think he is, and i think the issues he brings up are usually valid
but he's not part of the clique
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
It is hard to break into these games because of it.
Fixious - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
p sure he and hob have an issue. both are aussies
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
PPL got be friendly.
groov - Yesterday at 5:11 PM
yeah, i think it doesn't look good on the game to have the players and mods insult ppl
if you have 'moderator' under ur name u kinda gotta hold yourself to a higher standard
imo at least
regardless of personal issues with ppl
KidC - Yesterday at 5:12 PM
opcorn:
Fixious - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
well i never did
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
midair needs everything ppl can muster
groov - Yesterday at 5:13 PM
yeah exactly, i just kinda saw toxicity on both sides and yet people only wanted to see one
and that game needs as little of that stuff as possible
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fixious - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
what are the top 3 things you'd change with base?
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
Can't really control personalities.
groov - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
i think mods on an official forum for a commercial game shoudl act professionally
KidC - Yesterday at 5:15 PM
me too
groov - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
like, if i knew nothing about midar and i started reading that forum
and saw how people were acting
i would not want to play that game
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
I kinda think Mods need to be in the background
groov - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
especially if its one of the moderators and community organizers acting that way
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
Unless there is an actual bug or tech issue
groov - Yesterday at 5:16 PM
yeah like, this is a commercial game thats trying to make money
the mods on that official forum for the commercial game trying to make money
shouldn't be throwing around personal insults at the people paying to play it
imo, at least, they can conduct themselves however they want obv
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:17 PM
Yeah personal insults don't fit anywhere these days actually.
I feel like gamers are a little late to that.
Ouch - throwing insults.
groov - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
lol ya
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
But everyone has opinions these days
and isn't scared to share em
if you are working for a company even if it is for free
you represent them
groov - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
idk, i wasn't trying to be a dick but like, its apparently OK for Moose, hob and slush to throw around personal insults
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:18 PM
and should act accordingly.
groov - Yesterday at 5:19 PM
but not WW even tho i didnt see WW do anything as bad as them
that kinda says to me that there are different rules for ppl in the clique and ppl who arent
and thats not a picture you want to paint to someone whos debating putting money into the game
yeah i think the free thing plays a factor
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
well it can become an excuse
groov - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
like there is this slight attitude of 'we're doing you a favor so we can act and do whatever'
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:20 PM
so can favouritism
groov - Yesterday at 5:21 PM
but i dont believe in this altruistic excuse
they're trying to start a company, most of them i assume will either continue with archetype if its successful
or go into some kind of game dev and use midair on their resumes
its not some gift to the community, its a commercial venture with personal gain as the goal
and for some ppl i think its also their way of trying to prove that they can build a better game than the ppl that came before them
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:26 PM
I suppose.
I think that indie games need to have a good enough check.
Like everything.
They don't have the funds or man power to make the best game possible.
groov - Yesterday at 5:27 PM
true for sure
fastbomb - Yesterday at 5:27 PM
Usually new ppl think, this is going to be great, we are going to change things & then the grind.
Kickstarter was the easy part for them.
Seemed like the perfect timing.(edited)
It will be interesting to see how the company continues.(edited)
groov - Yesterday at 5:31 PM
yeah ive been trying to remain more of a casual bystander and observer than really get involved
cuz im really just not sure where its gonna go
i hope it turns out great i just dont want to invest in it or the community until the game is more complete
i kinda think they're in a strange chicken and egg thing where ppl dont play base cuz its poorly balanced
and its poorly balanced because people dont play it
slush - Yesterday at 9:17 PM
Midair btw
November 20, 2017
wtf_eat_apples - Today at 1:28 AM
omg
Lyon - Today at 7:53 AM
lol @slush
slush - Today at 8:08 AM
: )
fastbomb - Today at 9:43 AM
fpsz suggestions -
tdm - how many kills until the match ends?
ffa - how many kills until the match ends?
lt ctf - how many caps until the match ends?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
fastbomb - Today at 10:34 AM
Leaning towards 25 for ffa
75 for tdm
&....