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It makes Muslims feel welcome in America, which they most certainly are not.
Let them build that fucking Mosque
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It makes Muslims feel welcome in America, which they most certainly are not.
Validuz seems to be an expert on Islam from a video he saw on the internet once.
Plus, you seem to have no knowledge whatsoever of the Koran, and everything you've said word for word I heard on an ill-informed 10 minute long youtube video about Islam.
You're probably going to respond that you know what you're talking about because you've read the Koran, but you'd be lying. Anyone with an IQ over 12 who reads it would be able to understand that your 'facts' are pure bullshit that play to the fears of the uneducated. We really shouldn't expect any better from you though, since you're not even intelligent enough to get off a hill.
The passage you're referring to ACTUALLY says that it is acceptable for Muslims to hide their faith if not doing so would put their life is in danger. Some terrorists do admittedly interpret it the way you say, but 99% of muslims don't.
Those poor Muslims following a religion that explicitly states that they must deceive all non-Muslims by pretending you're one of them,
They feel they have a responsibility to convert nonbelievers, the same as Christians do. Nowhere does it say they have to kill them if they can't convert them. Actually, back in the pre-crusades era, the muslims were actually much MUCH more tolerant of other religions than Christians. Fun fact: The jews in Arabia were actually able to live peacefully and freely practice their religion under Muslim rule, whereas the Crusaders would kill jews just as easily as they would muslims.convert them to Islam or kill them if they won't convert,
Again, no. Your tiny brain does not seem to be able to comprehend that there's a difference between normal muslims and the radical terrorists.and
Plus, you seem to have no knowledge whatsoever of the Koran, and everything you've said word for word I heard on an ill-informed 10 minute long youtube video about Islam.
You're probably going to respond that you know what you're talking about because you've read the Koran, but you'd be lying. Anyone with an IQ over 12 who reads it would be able to understand that your 'facts' are pure bullshit that play to the fears of the uneducated. We really shouldn't expect any better from you though, since you're not even intelligent enough to get off a hill.
If anyone wonders why most people think Americans are pricks, this thread is a good indication as to why.
They care nothing to learn of history.
George Bush himself was great friends with the rich members of Saudi Arabia's elites who have known links to the many hijackers.
Yet Americans like to cling to the idea that this is a result of "Muslims" in general. This helps them pinpoint their anger, although the irony is that it's pinpointing a larger group of people than they are themselves. Perhaps it's then a fear issue, turned into xenophobia.
Either way, the idea that building a mosque ten years later in an area near by where the horrible event occured, has anything to do with sensitivity is absurd. The hijackers were no more representative of Islam than are KKK members representatives of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Of course that statement simply makes for a less interesting news story, and Fox News can't report it all day, get people involved in their fear and hate-mongering, etc.
The people that crashed into the towers were well-funded by your politicians and businessmen. They were not from Iraq, and nor did they represent Islam.
The worst part is the hypocrisy, where were your cries of insensitivity when you invaded Iraq and 10-30,000 civilians wound up dead. Where were you cries of insensitivity when there were no WMD's found, and nothing to link Iraq to the crime. Where's your fucking insensitivity there? What about when your own military couldn't get healthcare for themselves? What about when millions of Americans lost their homes? Wasn't that like last year?
Yet look at you pick this single event that is literally MEANINGLESS and attribute it all these emotional feelings, undoubtedly conjured up. I'd be surprised if you guys could feel anything. You're fucking sheep and you know it.
Brainwashed Americans, you make me hold my head in shame of humanity.
I guess the worst thing is that this shouldn't have to be said to people who are literate. I expect this to have to be said only at Nascar events and such.
lastly, the worst part of this is that because of your absurd attempts to link Muslims and Islam to the scene of the crime, we can no longer dissect it on the grounds that it should be dissected. ie. it must be seen (as all religion) as fundamentally problematic due to its patriarchal, misogynist & racist ideals whereby women and jews are treated as second-class citizens. before you get too high and mighty over this, every religion preaches the same unequal treatment of women and holds outdated and racist ideals.
They care nothing to learn of history.
George Bush himself was great friends with the rich members of Saudi Arabia's elites who have known links to the many hijackers.
Yet Americans like to cling to the idea that this is a result of "Muslims" in general. This helps them pinpoint their anger, although the irony is that it's pinpointing a larger group of people than they are themselves. Perhaps it's then a fear issue, turned into xenophobia.
Either way, the idea that building a mosque ten years later in an area near by where the horrible event occured, has anything to do with sensitivity is absurd. The hijackers were no more representative of Islam than are KKK members representatives of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Of course that statement simply makes for a less interesting news story, and Fox News can't report it all day, get people involved in their fear and hate-mongering, etc.
The people that crashed into the towers were well-funded by your politicians and businessmen. They were not from Iraq, and nor did they represent Islam.
The worst part is the hypocrisy, where were your cries of insensitivity when you invaded Iraq and 10-30,000 civilians wound up dead. Where were you cries of insensitivity when there were no WMD's found, and nothing to link Iraq to the crime. Where's your fucking insensitivity there? What about when your own military couldn't get healthcare for themselves? What about when millions of Americans lost their homes? Wasn't that like last year?
Yet look at you pick this single event that is literally MEANINGLESS and attribute it all these emotional feelings, undoubtedly conjured up. I'd be surprised if you guys could feel anything. You're fucking sheep and you know it.
Brainwashed Americans, you make me hold my head in shame of humanity.
I guess the worst thing is that this shouldn't have to be said to people who are literate. I expect this to have to be said only at Nascar events and such.
lastly, the worst part of this is that because of your absurd attempts to link Muslims and Islam to the scene of the crime, we can no longer dissect it on the grounds that it should be dissected. ie. it must be seen (as all religion) as fundamentally problematic due to its patriarchal, misogynist & racist ideals whereby women and jews are treated as second-class citizens. before you get too high and mighty over this, every religion preaches the same unequal treatment of women and holds outdated and racist ideals.
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my boss is a muslim and two of my coworkers are jews (in an office of 7 people)
basically my daily experiences completely and totally destroy anything validumb says
its more fun just to egg him on and get him flying into a rage then actually discuss anything worthwhile
basically my daily experiences completely and totally destroy anything validumb says
its more fun just to egg him on and get him flying into a rage then actually discuss anything worthwhile
HaPpY
Veteran XX
so its a christian equivalent of sunday school, but for adults, and its daily, and not a school but a breakfast club
BUT BUT BUT Islam wants to subjugate the whole planet! It's us or them!
same as in the past the biggest threat to civilisation was supposedly the dreaded Communism
some people (most people
) just need someone or something to hateDumpy Dooby
Veteran X
Doctrine is a funny thing. It's characterized by interpretation and understanding in the context of a religion rather than by the literature. That's why the Big Three western religions can each use their own respective literature and yet have major polarizing divisions within them, often based on varying degrees of orthodoxy.
To put this in another perspective, we could point out the passages of the Bible that were used by Confederate soldiers to justify slavery. We could point out the passages are used by the KKK and Neonazis to justify perceived notions of so-called "white supremacy." We can look up passages cited by the LRA, IRA, White Eagles, Paul Hill, Westboro Baptists, Positive Christianity, Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, Bloody Mary, etcetera.
The point here being that people will always attempt to justify varying degrees of viciousness with religion or ideology. Just because you can point out the literature that's cited to back up the doctrinal interpretation does not mean that particular doctrine (interpretation) is common throughout the religion as a whole.
The largest genocides and most destructive acts of terrorism (measured by body count) in the world today are being done in the perceived name of Christianity. Take careful note that I'm not blaming Christianity either, just as I don't blame Islam. It's a matter of perception.
where does the constitution say i can build a church anywhere i want, including the white house lawn or your backyard? show me, seriously, im dying to know where it says this
because i've read it, and you obviously have not
so show me the quote straight from the constitution that says this
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because i've read it, and you obviously have not
so show me the quote straight from the constitution that says this
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the constitution says you guys don't persecute on the basis of religion right?
well that's what you're doing if you say 'no mosque here, even though legally you are entitled to, we just don't want you to because you're Muslims and 9-11 happened a few blocks away'
MRAAAAH THE CONSTITUTION
the constitution says you guys don't persecute on the basis of religion right?
well that's what you're doing if you say 'no mosque here, even though legally you are entitled to, we just don't want you to because you're Muslims and 9-11 happened a few blocks away'
MRAAAAH THE CONSTITUTION
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Dumpy Dooby
Veteran X
You have a right to property. If you own property, you can put a mosque on it. The end.
Am i missing something, or did Animo say the same thing 3 times before someone responded? And yet even though no one cares what he says, he's acting like he's arguing with someone? Unless he actually was arguing with someone, and they deleted their posts.