Fallout 3 = Oblivion with guns
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tw tricked me into buying fallout3You're aware that they aren't FPS games, yes?
And that they're of much slower pace with tactical, turn-based combat (that doesn't happen every three seconds)?
It seems to me that anybody that is a big fan of F3 would not be a big fan of the other two because they are vastly different.
Bethesda was aiming for the Quake kiddie demographic.
I don't mind turn based combat at all - actually I would have preferred if F3 was more like KOTOR's combat or something. The VATS system is kind of cool but when you can shoot in realtime it doesn't really make sense to have both available.
Explain that to Killjoy.
Ok, now you stuck your head up your ass. Pressing a button to give yourself auto-aim bullet time is NOTHING like quake.
Lokismischief
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I love the first two Fallout games, and I thoroughly enjoy Fallout 3.
I've actually found so far that long VATS is only useful when you're running for your life and shooting at the same time. If I'm sneaking and have time to aim, my aim is MUCH better going at it manually.
...no, but creating a game in which you're running through brown environments shooting everything that moves every six seconds certainly is.
You're acting like adding "auto aim bullet time" somehow adds depth.
"BOY MAX PAYNE IS A VERY DEEP GAME WITH EXTREMELY STRATEGIC COMBAT.
IT DEFINITELY HAS MORE IN COMMON WITH A TBS THAN IT DOES WITH A MINDLESS SHOOTING GAME LIKE QUAKE."
-CarpeIppon
Ghouls can live for hundreds of years.
But yes, Bethesda really did fuck up a lot of the story elements.
Ok so I just beat this game. Some spoilers below I'm not using tags.
I thought I was maybe, 1/5 or 1/4 of the way through when the fucking epilogue started running. That was a campaign? The main quest had like, five real missions in it. Seriously what the fuck was that? I spent a bunch of time doing sidequests and whatnot, got to level 20 (which is a bullshit cap by the way), then decided to finish the main quest. Little did I know I only had about an hour and a half left in it. Luckily I didn't decide to go through the main quest first, it would have been an 8 hour long RPG.
And what the fuck? You can't continue exploring after you finished? I probably visited 1/10 of the locations, if that. I never even got to try recruiting anyone. I don't want to start the game from scratch just to do all the things I want during the end game.
The story was building itself up to be epic and presented itself as something complex and deep, but instead it's: find dad, help dad, help other scientists, blow up the president, follow giant robot, push button. The end. And those last three things I said all happen within a span of about 30 minutes. What a waste.
This game sucked, I'm glad it's over.
I thought I was maybe, 1/5 or 1/4 of the way through when the fucking epilogue started running. That was a campaign? The main quest had like, five real missions in it. Seriously what the fuck was that? I spent a bunch of time doing sidequests and whatnot, got to level 20 (which is a bullshit cap by the way), then decided to finish the main quest. Little did I know I only had about an hour and a half left in it. Luckily I didn't decide to go through the main quest first, it would have been an 8 hour long RPG.
And what the fuck? You can't continue exploring after you finished? I probably visited 1/10 of the locations, if that. I never even got to try recruiting anyone. I don't want to start the game from scratch just to do all the things I want during the end game.
The story was building itself up to be epic and presented itself as something complex and deep, but instead it's: find dad, help dad, help other scientists, blow up the president, follow giant robot, push button. The end. And those last three things I said all happen within a span of about 30 minutes. What a waste.
This game sucked, I'm glad it's over.
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KnightMare
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wtf vtmb is a good game? I remember playing the demo at one point dont remember anything worth a damn.
It's one of the best games of the past five years.
Hands down.
It beats the shit out of F3 in every way possible and shows how this sort of game should be done.
You'll be waiting for quite a while since Bethesda doesn't seem to have any interest whatsoever in supporting the mod community because--surprise--console users won't benefit and they can sell shit themselves on that retarded Xbox online thing.
SuicideSnowman
Veteran XV
There are already mods for it.
I loved both stalker and oblivion. I have clear sky in the queue, installed, patched, ready to go.
But both of those games required an enormous amount of work for me to enjoy them. Stalker required thorough tweaking, which when completed the game looked fantastic. Oblivion...after Morrowind seemed borked but could be revived by mods, and was. But again, that took work.
Fallout 3 should be plug and play for you, unless you're Fool. With settings maxed it looks good and plays well on my decent machine. Seems to have upside through modding and tweaking but does not require those things in order to be stable or look good.
So that's what I mean when I say it's better out of the box than either stalker or oblivion.