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coombz
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49561 - 10-16-2017, 21:09
lol you dummy, Tele already debunked that post with a totally relevant asperger rant about Venezuela

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****ing communist morons
OWNED ®
 
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49562 - 10-16-2017, 23:40
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Surrender monkeys

GM Ends Canada Plant Strike After Workers Cave on Mexico Demands - Bloomberg


 
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49563 - 10-16-2017, 23:56
cpttele's Venezuelan golden age

History of Venezuela

El Trienio Adeco (1945***8211;1948)
Main article: El Trienio Adeco

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El Trienio Adeco was a three-year period in Venezuelan history, from 1945 to 1948, under the government of the popular party Democratic Action (Accion Democratica, its adherents adecos). The party gained office via the 1945 Venezuelan coup d'état against President Isaías Medina Angarita and held the first elections with universal suffrage in Venezuelan history. The Venezuelan general election, 1947 saw Democratic Action formally elected to office, but it was removed from office shortly after in the 1948 Venezuelan coup d'état.

There was no particular incident that set off the bloodless 1948 coup, which was led by Delgado Chalbaud. There was no popular opposition. This might have meant that the odds were too great or that the general populace had not noticed any particular improvement in their lives despite the incessant government propaganda. All prominent adecos were expelled. The other parties were allowed but muzzled.
Jaime Lusinchi - Wikipedia

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was a Venezuelan politician who was the President of Venezuela from 1984 to 1989. His term was characterized by an economic crisis, growth of the external debt, populist policies, currency depreciation, inflation and corruption that exacerbated the crisis of the political system established in 1958.

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The return to economic populism as in previous administrations safeguarded Lusinchi's popularity. However, there occurred currency devaluation, corruption, media criticism and unsatisfactory results from the Presidential Commission for State Reform (COPRE) which was established on 17 December 1984 and whose work encountered the same bureaucratic problems and administrative inefficiency, which it attempted to solve.

During Lusinchi's presidency some repudable incidents also occurred, such as the Yumare massacre, in Yaracuy, on 8 May 1986 carried out by the DISIP (political police of Venezuela), executing nine members of the subversive group Punto Cero; and the massacre of El Amparo, in Apure State, on 29 October 1988, in which 14 fishermen were mistakenly assumed to be guerrillas and killed by the army.

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After his presidency had ended, Lusinchi was appointed Senator for Life, as was permitted by the Venezuelan constitution of 1961. But From 27 March 1990, Lusinchi became the subject of a parliamentary inquiry looking at what was believed to be a corruption scandal of huge proportions that took place during his term in government. Accused of illegally influencing decisions at the currency exchange through the financial Regime of Preferential Currency Change (RECADI) and management of funds at the Foreign Affairs Ministry, as well as the purchase of 65 off-road vehicles that were to be used in the 1988 electoral campaign of Acción Democrática; the diversion of other funds from the National Institute for Racetracks (INH). He was also declared a suspect in the August 1993 sending of mail bombs meant to intimidate members of the Supreme Court.
 
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49564 - 10-17-2017, 01:13
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Nazi Germany wasn't a totalitarian state in that sense, hence why people still owned things.

I can safely place fascism anywhere on the left side of my political spectrum BECAUSE IT REQUIRES GOVERNMENT POWER TO BE EFFECTIVE. No one cares about the mice trying to suppress our speech. We care about the guy holding the gun.

So now Nazis weren't socialists? Oh my ****ing god. Jesus Christ, you are so ****ing delusional. This is why Socialist/Communist patterns keeps repeating over and over no matter how many times it fails and millions of lives are lost/suffer and billions suffer.

Accurate political spectrums are actually amazing. They allow us to have conversations about what is bad and what is good, based on subjective and objective views. The only trend I notice is that leftists don't like them because literally all of history shows us that leftism is horrendous for people, and who wants to admit that their views are demonstrably ****? Definitely not the people who are naive enough to believe in socialism in the first place.

p.s. If the people of NK had a chance to vote, they would instantly vote a psycho has a supreme leader again. It would require at least a generation or two for them change out of that mindset. This is how little you understand people.
no, they weren't socialists.

know how the nazis got the property owners on their side?

they beat the **** out of the communists and socialists and then didn't seize the factories.

again, not socialist.
 
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49565 - 10-17-2017, 01:33
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnxqcb0mRcU
this is ****in awesome

im in tears
 
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KittyCat
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Old
49566 - 10-17-2017, 01:48
Rrrrreeeeeeeee
 
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arsin
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49567 - 10-17-2017, 03:13


Yess!
 
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havax
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49568 - 10-17-2017, 03:23
lol i love that face
 
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ArakAtak
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49569 - 10-17-2017, 04:54
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Originally Posted by Chaol View Post
1 you want more money in the hands of people who will spend it, not invest it.
Isn't that the same thing?

Invested money ends up buying something. As long as it isn't in silver bars down the well that is
 
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-SS-
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49570 - 10-17-2017, 08:34
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Isn't that the same thing?

Invested money ends up buying something. As long as it isn't in silver bars down the well that is
I lol'd when I read his garbage post.

Bonus: How dare people have more of their hard earned money to spend it as they see fit.

-Let's call that 'trickle down' (aka tax cuts) and use that to rile up the recipient class who benefits from higher taxes

-We'll pick on, shame, and guilt those who have it and hide those who pay nothing into it (if noticed: "you hate the poor!")

-Hand outs = more votes; keeping democrats in power through other peoples' money (and makes it harder to challenge their position so they can keep their seat). Taking away bennies is not a popular platform but promising other peoples' money is
 
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Chaol
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49571 - 10-17-2017, 09:35
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I lol'd when I read his garbage post.

Bonus: How dare people have more of their hard earned money to spend it as they see fit.

-Let's call that 'trickle down' (aka tax cuts) and use that to rile up the recipient class who benefits from higher taxes

-We'll pick on, shame, and guilt those who have it and hide those who pay nothing into it (if noticed: "you hate the poor!")

-Hand outs = more votes; keeping democrats in power through other peoples' money (and makes it harder to challenge their position so they can keep their seat). Taking away bennies is not a popular platform but promising other peoples' money is
It's clear that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand what I'm writing, so of course it looks like nonsense
 
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Chaol
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49572 - 10-17-2017, 09:43
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Isn't that the same thing?

Invested money ends up buying something. As long as it isn't in silver bars down the well that is
Consumption is a direct benefit to people i.e. chicken tendies

Investment is the means to create i.e. a chicken tendie factory

think of it like creating value now, or creating the ability to create even more value later
 
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-SS-
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49573 - 10-17-2017, 11:39
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It's clear that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand what I'm writing, so of course it looks like nonsense


When you lack the ability to counter an extremely well supported and effective position, make it personal. amirite?

Anyway, go back and read up on the velocity of money and then read my post and then read yours again (let's see if you catch it as someone else did). Context is important.

At the end of the day, your position is a 'gibzmedat' gvt loving redistributionist, clearly in support of robbing people (of their property) at the threat of gunpoint disguised as 'caring' for the less 'fortunate'. That's about the only thing you have been able to communicate, if somewhat poorly.

In short, everything you believe in economically is a fraud -both current events and history easily prove that... unless you can show where a socialist paradise exists. I know, I know, Venezuela doesnt count. Try not to look at the EU nations either since they are currently funding their socialist utopias at US taxpayer expense.

Case closed. ggs.
 
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arsin
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49574 - 10-17-2017, 12:26
How do u kno ur a shill? Ur defending trikle down eco

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It's clear that you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand what I'm writing, so of course it looks like nonsense
Yea things that dont jive with his anectdotally and
ECON101 constructed view will not register.

When the Trump bodly proclaimed that the GOP tax cuts
benefitted the middle class, the Trump must have mistaken
middle class incomes as being incomes under $300k amirite?

Or is he really that much of a pathological liar that he is comfortable with the notion of being a POTUS who can out right lie to the nation? to get something that benefits him and his pals?

If so then perhaps this Presidency has shades of a kleptocracy to it?

Or is the Trump just being more open about it? What is Obama's net worth?
 
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phaytal
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49575 - 10-17-2017, 12:50
SS is adorable.
 
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lemon
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49576 - 10-17-2017, 13:00
phatyl meltdown
 
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SuperTrap
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49577 - 10-17-2017, 13:01
Ya think?

UK hate crimes: Britain sees spike after Brexit

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LONDON — U.K. authorities say hate crimes spiked after Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and following several extremist attacks this year, raising concerns about a backlash against Muslims, immigrants and others groups.
Data released by the Home Office shows hate crimes rose 29%*to 80,393 in the year ended March 31. That included the EU referendum in June 2016 and the attack on Westminster Bridge in March 2017.
The biggest problem over there is they are all gun nuts. Almost everyone has a gun for ****s sake.
 
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havax
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Old
49578 - 10-17-2017, 13:03
welp, that settles it

ss has to be wrong if phaytal and arsin say so

LOL
 
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KittyCat
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Old
49579 - 10-17-2017, 13:05
Wall of text posts did not read
 
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SuperTrap
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Old
49580 - 10-17-2017, 13:11
Owned. MAGAd. RekT.

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Democrats are attacking President Trump for “dismantling” President Obama’s legacy on everything from Obamacare subsidies to immigration amnesty, but nobody knew better than Mr. Obama how vulnerable his go-it-alone agenda would be if Mr. Trump won the election.
Unable to work with a Republican-led Congress for most of his presidency, Mr. Obama did what he could with his presidential “pen and phone,” issuing executive orders, rules and regulations that in many cases could be overturned by another stroke of the pen — this time by a Republican president. Long before Mr. Obama left office, Republicans were accusing him of overreaching presidential authority, and Mr. Trump was vowing to overturn his unilateral decisions.
At a Clinton campaign rally in Cleveland in October 2016, a few weeks before Election Day, Mr. Obama tried to fire up Democratic voters with a plea that his legacy was hanging in the balance on issues such as climate change and health care.

“I’m here to tell you that all that progress goes out the window if we don’t make the right choice right now,” Mr. Obama said at the time. “Donald Trump’s closing argument is ‘What do you have to lose?’ The answer is: Everything. All the progress we’ve made right now is on the ballot.”
Among the actions Mr. Trump has taken since Jan. 20 are pulling the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement (a U.N. accord never ratified by Congress), revoking deportation amnesty for young illegal immigrants called “Dreamers” (to Republicans’ complaints that he was exceeding his authority, Mr. Obama dared lawmakers: “Pass a bill”), decertifying the Iran nuclear deal (and requesting more congressional input), ending government subsidy payments to insurance companies under Obamacare (never approved by Congress), and rolling back about 800 other Obama-era government regulations on a broad front, including portions of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial regulatory law.
Asked at an impromptu news conference Monday if there were any Obama policies he would like to keep, Mr. Trump replied, “Not too many, I must say. It’s the opposite side of the spectrum.
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While other presidents have rescinded policies of their predecessors, the extent of Mr. Trump’s actions is rare, said Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation Institute for Constitutional Government.
“He is undoing unilateral executives actions of a prior president that went beyond the executive authority of the president,” Mr. von Spakovsky said. “Trump is not being given credit or praise the way he should for what he is accomplishing: restoring the rule of law, bringing the executive branch back within the parameters and limits of the Constitution and restoring to Congress authority that prior presidents have stolen.”
He said Mr. Trump “is reversing the unfortunate trend we have seen, especially during the Obama administration, of the move towards an imperial presidency that disregards the limits on its power.”
Donald Trump reverses Obamas legally dubious executive orders - Washington Times
 
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