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901 - 05-01-2010, 02:36
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Untrue. Prior to 1070 there was no state law that made illegal immigration a crime, and thus state LE wasn't able to enforce anything regarding illegal immigration.

Now they can punish you, although the amended bill drastically reduces the scope of available punishments (it struck out all felonies!).

Eventually, I suspect the state will be forced to pay the court costs of some legal citizens who claim that the officer used race in excess of "what is allowable under the United States and Arizona constitutions" and eventually the entire section about law enforcement officers checking legal status will get tossed.

They'll probably switch to just checking the legal status of -all- people who are arrested and then punishing them for trespass upon the jail (hah!) since they're illegally in the country and it's a publicly owned building.
 
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Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Liberty is afforded to those of us who are here LEGALLY. Liberty is not for the whole world. The rest of the world sucks ass. You should move to the rest of the world.
 
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I was in a bar tonight and espnews was on the lcd at the urinal, the bottom ticker had 2 things about this:

"MLB players assoc [or whatever] is against new arizona law"
"The new law makes it illegal to be in the country illegally"

omg no way
 
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Arizona deputy shot by suspected drug trafficker, officials say - CNN.com
 
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Instead of wasting money deporting several million illegals already here, we should be spending some money on actual border security. It's essentially pailing water out of a boat instead of fixing the leak
 
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Hey, novel idea here.

Let's do both.
 
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Not when the state is broke. Gotta fix the leak before you empty the water out.
 
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Or else apply for government emergency relief...

BTW,

Rasmussen Report, April 27, 2010

6* Some people believe that the goal of immigration policy should be to keep out national security threats, criminals, and those who would come here to live off our welfare system. Beyond that, all immigrants would be welcome. Do you agree or disagree with that goal for immigration policy?

54% Agree
26% Disagree
21% Not sure

7* Do you favor or oppose legislation that authorizes local police to stop and verify the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant?

57% Favor
31% Oppose
11% Not sure

8* How concerned are you that efforts to identify and deport illegal immigrants will also end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens?

29% Very concerned
27% Somewhat concerned
24% Not very concerned
18% Not at all concerned
2% Not sure
 
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Instead of wasting money deporting several million illegals already here, we should be spending some money on actual border security. It's essentially pailing water out of a boat instead of fixing the leak
ding ding ding
 
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The 42% who don't care that their own civil rights will be violated is the funny part.
 
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That's sheep for you
 
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