VeteranXX
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lol @ you nerds jerking off over a CPU for gaming , when was the last time a game was actually impacted because of CPU ? lmao
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VeteranXX
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sounds like poor people talk
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VeteranXV
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do you put it on broil?
I love the smell of melting capacitors in the morning.
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VeteranXX
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmjnT0wmCBo
So it looks like if you're playing anything other than 4k games, that CPUs are now the bottleneck. Since Intel still seems to be the single core/IPC king, it looks like gamers should possibly hold out for the 7740k later this year.
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VeteranXV
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I don't care about 180fps vs 210fps. Neither should anyone else without autism.
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VeteranX
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Originally Posted by Dangerdoggie
do you put it on broil?
I love the smell of melting capacitors in the morning.
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Ha, no not broil, 385F for a couple minutes then 415 for a couple minutes. I've done a few kitchen oven reflows and squeezed months and even years more service out of a number of laptops and a couple of PS3s.
I ran across this and thought it looked like a neat little project:
Reflow Oven Build Guide
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VeteranXV
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Odio heavily invested his stack of 20s in amd stock
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bughead
[!YOUTUBE]cmjnT0wmCBo[/YOUTUBE]
So it looks like if you're playing anything other than 4k games, that CPUs are now the bottleneck. Since Intel still seems to be the single core/IPC king, it looks like gamers should possibly hold out for the 7740k later this year.
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Again, this is just the initial release, and it's the i7 rivals, and they appear to be outperforming those rivals, for considerably cheaper. The i5 lineup is still on the way, and if they perform similarly, they're certainly worth a look.
That said, it's early days yet, so it's certainly a matter of "wait and see", one way or the other.
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Last edited by MC Hamster; 03-09-2017 at 16:12..
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VeteranX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangerdoggie
I would never do that in a regular oven, interesting smell you discovered and potentially can't get rid of.
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Indeed. I have an old stove in the shop that I use for such things as heating ABS or HIPSfor the vacuform table, curing cerakote, etc.
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VeteranXX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Odio
I don't care about 180fps vs 210fps. Neither should anyone else without autism.
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True. You can easily see a difference between 30/60 FPS. 90 FPS+ is the ideal and also where it starts to become much harder to see/feel the difference (it's also where motion becomes more natural, hence VR using 90hz).
Humans can discern up to 200-250 FPS but that's overkill and most won't be able to process all that extra information.
So IMO gaming is stuck @ 1440p ("2K") for now. I'll adopt 4K once the frames can consistently hang around 90 FPS.
Having a 4k monitor would still be nice to view media and what not when not gaming though. I wonder what 1440 would look like on a 4k screen? Probably ****...
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VeteranXX Contributor
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Looks like Ryzen is competitive. That's great because it forces Intel to get off their asses. Competition breeds innovation. But it's certainly not enough to make me switch platforms. I'm not even looking for a new CPU right now so I'm content to wait and see how Intel responds. I doubt they want another repeat of the early 2000s when AMD was whipping their asses all up and down the enthusiast class.
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VeteranXV
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If I had to build my new PC TODAY, I would go with a GTX1080ti and 65w Ryzen 1700.
For desktop, it would annihilate anything intel has to offer, for gaming it would probably get me within 10% of the 7700k. That's assuming I get lucky and receive a chip that can do 4GHz with current bios revisions.
Once all the bios bugs are sorted out, and drivers are updated, and code is optimized to take advantage of a new microarchitecture, the R7 line could close the gap on the 7700k in gaming.
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Sour++ Contributor
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I just ordered a 7700k. Hopefully done with a new build next week once I finish shopping.
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VeteranXX
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I have a 120hz monitor and can definitely tell when FPS drops below 120.
Yeah 180 vs 220 average who cares, but what the minimum framerate is what i care about, for me it must be above 120.
7700k and cheapest 1070 does that for me in csgo at 1080p.
I am worried if I get a new 27" 1440p 144hz monitor, that csgo won't always get 144fps minimum at that resolution (like on a 30 person dm server). prob need 1080 at that point. ehhh
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VeteranXV
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You need to stop being poor and get a monitor with G-Sync.
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VeteranXX
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don't need gsync if you dont get fps drops, right?
i guess it might be a bandaid if i do drop below 144fps, but I haven't used gsync before so i don't really know
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VeteranXV
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So you use V-sync? What about input lag?
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VeteranXX
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no vsync here
cs runs at 250-300fps, monitor is running at 120hz
no tearing, no input lag
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