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Fool said:

That's obviously doctored footage

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KittyCat said:

When she went on BBC radio on Thursday, Wolf, the author of Vagina and the forthcoming Outrages: Sex, Censorship, and the Criminalization of Love, probably expected to discuss the historical revelations she’d uncovered her book. But during the interview, broadcaster Matthew Sweet read to Wolf the definition of “death recorded,” a 19th-century English legal term. “Death recorded” means that a convict was pardoned for his crimes rather than given the death sentence.

Wolf thought the term meant execution.


lOL this 4 tele

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Feminist author Naomi Wolf has a new book coming out next month. At least that was the plan. But after what happened today on a BBC 3 radio interview show, I suspect that date will be pushed back a few months. Wolf’s new book is titled “Outrages: Sex, Censorship, and the Criminalization of Love.” Here’s the description of the subject it covers from Amazon:
The best-selling author of Vagina, Give Me Liberty, and The End of America illuminates a dramatic buried story of gay history—how a single English law in 1857 led to a maelstrom, with reverberations lasting down to our day…

Before 1857 it wasn’t “homosexuality” that was a crime, but simply the act of sodomy. But in a single stroke, not only was love between men illegal, but anything referring to this love became obscene, unprintable, unspeakable.


So today, Wolf sat down with the BBC’s Matthew Sweet to discuss the book and, in the span of 30 minutes, he uncovered a big problem with her thesis. About 20 minutes into the discussion, Wolf claimed that her review of court records had uncovered “several dozen executions” of people who had been charged with “sodomy.” Wolf pointed to this as proof of the criminalization of homosexuality in 19th century England. But Matthew Sweet had done a bit of his own research.

“I don’t think you’re right about this,” Sweet said. He then began reading a passage from the book: “One of the cases that you look at that’s salient in your report is that Thomas Silva. It says ‘teenagers were now convicted more often. Indeed, that year…’ which is 1859, ‘fourteen-year-old Thomas Silva was actually executed for committing sodomy. The boy was indicted for an unnatural offense. Guilty. Death recorded. This is the first time the phrase unnatural offense entered the Old Bailey records.'”

“Thomas Silva wasn’t executed,” Sweet said. “Death recorded—I was really surprised by this and I looked it up. Death recorded is what’s in, I think, most of these cases that you’ve identified as executions. It doesn’t mean that he was executed. It was a category that was created in 1823 that allowed judges to abstain from pronouncing a sentence of death on any capital convict who they considered to be a fit subject for pardon. I don’t think any of the executions you’ve identified here actually happened.”

“Well, that’s a really important thing to investigate,” Wolf replied. “What is your understanding of what death recorded means?” she asked.

“Death recorded—I’ve just read you the definition of it there from the Old Bailey website,” Sweet said. He continued, “But I’ve got here a newspaper report about Thomas Silva and also something from the prison records that showed the date of his discharge.”

“The prisoner was found guilty and sentence of death was recorded,” Wolf said, apparently reading from a document Sweet had handed her. “Ah, the jury recommended to prisoner to mercy on account of his youth,” she added.

“When I found this I didn’t really know what to do with it because I think it’s quite a big problem with your argument,” Sweet said. He continued, “Also, it’s the nature of the offense here. Thomas Silva committed an indecent assault on a six-year-old boy. And he served two-and-a-half years for it in Portsmouth prison which doesn’t seem too excessive really.

“And I wonder about all the others because all the others that I followed up, I can’t find any evidence that any of these relationships that you’ve described were consensual. The other one you offer is James Spence, 60-year-old tutor. He committed what was described as felonious assault on schoolboys. One of these cases you offer is a bestiality case and not a buggery case. So, I think there’s a problem here with this argument.”

To her credit, Wolf thanks Sweet for his research and says that she’ll update the book with any evidence about Thomas Silva not having been executed. But Sweet continues to press the point that in fact there’s no evidence any of the sentences Wolf wrote about were for consensual homosexual sex. As he pointed out, all of the ones he looked at more closely involved what would now be called sexual assault or even rape. But Wolf maintains many of the cases she looked at involved consenting adults.

In any case, it appears the several dozen executions she identified were not executions. And it appears some of the cases she identified as the criminalization of adult homosexuality were in fact child molestation. That’s a fairly significant problem for a book that relies on court records to make the case that homosexuals were being rounded up as part of a national panic.

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Fool said:

Crazy part is he used to be even fatter.

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Captain Tele said:

this is good stuff right here

Both Comey And Brennan Voted Communist While Cold War Was Raging | Zero Hedge

I just like to remind people of this as often as I can

usually you have to wait for the Soviet Republic to collapse before you get commies ice picking and turning their back for their own salvation like this

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Vanster said:

The best part of that, is that Trump said he would stand by it, and it was authentic. After running it through the Adobe algorithms and seeing that 9 parts were slowed by 75% or more, twitter and google just took it down.

Trump's link is still up. . .to a page saying "We've taken this down because of fraudulent content."

Honest question: Who is holding the power here?

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A video that appears to show House majority leader Nancy Pelosi slurring her words will not be removed from Facebook.

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cael said:

Federal judge blocks Trump from using Defense funds for parts of border wall - CNNPolitics

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Vanster said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/24/upshot/24up-family.html

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SeVeReD said:

Yeah I was going to add the qualification that responsible people do take care of their parents so there's that...

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A longtime Utah judge has been suspended without pay for six months after making critical comments online and in court about President Donald Trump, including a post bashing his "inability to govern and political incompetence."

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Judge Michael Kwan's posts on Facebook and LinkedIn in 2016-2017 violated the judicial code of conduct and diminished "the reputation of our entire judiciary," wrote Utah State Supreme Court Justice John A. Pearce in an opinion posted Wednesday.

Kwan's Facebook account was private but could have been shared by friends, Pearce wrote.

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