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61 - 07-29-2018, 02:29
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btw skillz i am indeed a nobody player who was on no legit teams

i call u out b/c i can recognize my own kind
I know you did and were a nobody.

You have no clue about who I am in RL the character I am, the work I do, the businesses I have and how I run them. You know nothing about me to recognize ****. On top of that you never played matches vs me " cheating " ever. On any team. Not on NuTz or -W- who did not cheat 1 match in 48. Prove me wrong- no one could then and no one can now. They all tried though. If you do not believe what I am saying 20 years later and also do not know me personally or played against me at all in comp top play? You truly have no idea to recognize you're own kind in me.

I am one of a kind. All you TW haters will find out one day when this website is no longer here. Mark my words. One day I will own this site and it will not exist but a link to me and surefire fingering you all. Ya rayn I said it. I don't care how much money you have or how much you will want for it, you will sell it, any smart business man would for a site that costs money and doesn't make **** all. Why? It is because of people these haters hating on people and pushing more and more accounts away. Anyways enough explaining myself to you, for you don't believe me anyways. Actions are better than words. Its not happening this year or next. If its still here in 2020? It wont much much longer. I will prove all you haters wrong.

If interest is shown for this LAN? its on and you are not paying for it, or the top prize- I AM. Why? Because I am not who you think I am, I am very very much more. You have no idea what kind of person I am. Maybe you can put it together with what I said? Doubt it.

Bring on the hate, bring on the cheating bs lies about -W- and how no matter what it doesn't matter. No one from any elite top team has posted in this thread yet. Just haters who never even played TOP comp base CTF who have no idea what really happen and the truth behind so much that went on in elite CTF base Tribes.

The POD CAST- tune in, find out, or still be ignorant and believe 20 years later I am going to lie about things? No I am not. Any question and information is on the table to ask. Lets see who wants to debate with me about Tribes CTF base- I dare you to try, and tune into the cast it will be entertaining to say the least.
 
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ok i will apologize 4 bagging on u

it was just 4 fun and i didn't realize how srs this bzns is 2u, that u define urself thru it (#Sad!), etc

gl w/ impressing all the ppl at tribalwar gaming news who u apparently failed 2 impress in the past but u kno that nobody ever impresses the tw gaming news gods
 
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i'll give u a few minutes 2 catch up

p.s. your not you're, mr. grammar champ

p.p.s. ur argument is undermined by the fact that u made it; if u bleeved what u say, u would have ignored me from the start

#Sad!
wrong

I have nothing to hide and no reason to lie 20 years later. A lot (most) have no clue really what went on in elite base CTF tribes. You don't. I am not ignoring anyone in this post. Bring it on buddy, you got nothing on me or my stake in the promotion and continuing support of this game. Despite what you feel happen 17 years ago with 2nd hand information.

Grammar for you're? LOL clearly you have **** to say I once again do not care about grammar on a TW forum to a bunch of *****es mostly. My business plans? Emails? You can bet those are 100% perfect.

You have no clue who I am or what I do, and what I am going to do. One day you will all know and the people who were not ****s and cock suckers to me for next to no reason will all benefit. You did not play comp base Tribes CTF elite matches, or really any. You opinion means nothing and "you're" skill level and experience in CTF base elite matches- is non existent. I dare you to show up to the LAN to watch- for you wont make any team to play for.
 
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Look at the grammar and writing ^didn't help
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Grammar for you're? LOL clearly you have **** to say I once again do not care about grammar on a TW forum to a bunch of *****es mostly.


ur making lots of response 2 opinion that u say doesn't matter
 
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ok i will apologize 4 bagging on u

it was just 4 fun and i didn't realize how srs this bzns is 2u, that u define urself thru it (#Sad!), etc

gl w/ impressing all the ppl at tribalwar gaming news who u apparently failed 2 impress in the past but u kno that nobody ever impresses the tw gaming news gods
Says who? You? You're opinion doesn't matter on the subject.

Ask KoV or the 44 teams that lost to us vs -W-.

I am not trying to impress the TW gaming news gods - wrong again.

I am trying to do something for the Tribes community for free- and you **** on me for me. lol ok buddy. You are a gem. Good luck posting on TW about **** you have no clue about to just talk ****.
 
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skillz, i'm ****ting on u 4 ur first post (and all the ones after it) in this thread

ur a big time prick and ur attitude will keep ppl from picking up tribes
 
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skillz i am 99% sure i never even played against wolfpacc in a match, even on rukus at the time because i was busy with daoc

i dont know wtf you are on lol
Ok Dutch I remember, Might have been you smurtfing, but you played games vs -W- and a lot of scrims smurfing also.

I am on nothing. I remember almost all things about Tribes. I remember you going HO and not making a impact. You play for the DRs? what base CTF teams did you play for? answer me that then. I know you smurfed for some vs us. IE did, 5150 did, Sticks did, all trying to beat us.

If I am wrong? Then prove it. This does not. It just tells me you are not 100% sure you didn't. You played HO for more teams that Rukus. Played on. List them all then? Truly even smurfing ones. I will know if I am wrong. And if I am i will admit it and apologize.

Ive always considered you a elite top player, just not used to your true potential on the right teams and positions. Along with the right strategy's to take full advantage of you're wide range of skills and elite abilities.

If you played for -W-? You would have been used in the right positions. HO/Swing light D cover, back to HO position, and dominated almost everyone. Sadly you were lead by sub par leaders IMO. That is not you're fault.

Killer J was a elite player who was loyal to his teams but could have played for -W- or an elite team and never did. Never was #1 never got to play in top matches.

He is a RL friend of mine now and stayed with me all last summer. Once again most do not know the truth who are posting. I hope elite teams and players do so we can do this LAN in Vegas.

mad respect Dutch
 
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skillz, i'm ****ting on u 4 ur first post (and all the ones after it) in this thread

ur a big time prick and ur attitude will keep ppl from picking up tribes

You have no idea who I am , and big time pricks do not pay for free LANs in VEGAS and a big top prize to the winner.

You are so clueless. I careless if this happens or not- it just cost me money not anyone else. the POD cast will happen 100% I will be on it. That spells what? less views?

I am not a prick I am a nice person, who has empathy and compassion and integrity. You have no ****ing idea who I am. Ask someone who does maybe? Or keep posting I do not care. This cast happens and the LAN doesn't you wont see me on this site again- until I own it and its gone.

Call me a prick all you want, but reality is not that. The people like you on this site are pricks bullies and jerks and that is what pushes people away.

Just another one of my many haters who have no clue who they are hating, just hating because well, they probably voted for trump? 20 YEARS LATER you hate still for what I am trying to make happen? Ya i am the prick here good one.

Bring it on no name
 
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there were some rukus scrims sure but who cares about those

never played for doctors, never smurfed for teams.. i came along late, didnt get off dialup until after t2 and when i came back to play t1 you thought i was a smurf

played for rukus, said no to joining rainbow robots, farmers briefly, and eventually joined e5 to form a super team to beat super kov which was essentially the end of competitive base

oh yeah was on i$ for a little bit right before t2 came out i think
 
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ur rite skillz, everything u said itt shows that ur a rly nice guy u have won the thread just like u will win the grand tournament
 
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Cool congrats on your success skillz. We used to play every day from 00 to 02 on pubs. You were definitely great for the game regardless of what else may have gone on.

Are you living in vegas? I've been here (vegas) close to 10 years now. I dont see this lan happening with whole teams showing up, but some kind of celebration would be cool.

-uglymonkey
 
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Hey everyone, this is DeathHavoc from =S3=, =V=, and -W-. It's probably been over 15 years since I've posted anything on TW but I've always checked back every few years to see what's been going on in the community.

It's pretty amazing that there is still a core group of people trying to keep the spirit of Tribes alive and to recapture some of the thrill that we had when we played it. It's really amazing how people still remember each other and the various events that happened back then, even some 15-20 years later. Big props to the folks who have gone out of their way to document/recollect the history of things to an extent and to try to extend the life of Tribes.

I hope that if a 20th anniversary event does end up happening, that it won't get marred by bickering and pointing of fingers at each other. The past is the past. All the drama that happened has happened but doesn't need to continue to happen. At this point, why hold onto grudges? I hated the guts of 5150 back in the days but when I think back to those times, I can only think highly of them for giving me some of the most intense competitive experiences of my life. Ideally the point of any type of 20th anniversary is to have some type of celebration, fun, and/or reflection, whether it be at some LAN somewhere, some podcast chats, online scrims, etc., whatever the hell it ends up being.

In the spirit of not giving a crap about any drama that happened two decades ago, I really have no reason to hide anything about what I saw playing with and against some of the great teams from back then. Really, feel free to ask me anything about any of the things that happened with =S3=, =V=, -W-, or anything that happened that era and I will be fully transparent to the extent of my memory on anything that happened. (I'll answer whenever I get the chance to.)

Because a lot of this thread has shifted focus toward what sKILLz has (or hasn't) done, I'll be happy to tell my account of what it was like playing with him. While I can't give any insider accounts for anything that happened during his time with NuTz, what I can vouch for is the time I spent playing with him in -W-.

Like many other folks are responding here, I was actually initially quite suspicious of sKILLz' history of having played for NuTz considering all the stuff that happened with them in the past (like happy flag, and if I remember correctly, I believe some of us at =S3= had felt that a member of NuTz had joined =S3= as a recruit to be an insider for several weeks). However there was a certain measure of respect that you could still have for players that you may have suspected of cheating, simply because there are certain aspects of playing Tribes competitively at the highest levels that supersede any benefits you would get from the cheats that I knew existed back then. Furthermore, both at the time and in hindsight, it was really hard to pinpoint for certain who exactly on a team known for cheats actually used them. (As it was really easy to jump to a conclusion that everyone on NuTz used happy flag, when I really can't say for sure if that was the case.)

While I don't remember any exact specific reason I decided to play with -W-, I remember it being a combination of: (1) gaining a level of comfort playing with their players via pubs/scrims, (2) being confident of their talent level and comfortable with their personalities, and (3) seeking to play with a mixup of players that had already played at a high level. Beforehand I had tried for a few weeks to work something out playing with THB, but as the sole =S3= player on the team, I had really gotten sick of all the crap that the [IE]/5150 players were saying about =S3= versus what I saw at the time as a lot of mutual kissing of each other's asses between their two teams, when all I really cared about was playing with a solid team. (Unfortunate, because I was really looking forward to the chance to see what it was like to play with more [IE] and 5150, as I'd gotten along well with and played with some of their other players, like DaBomb, AutoMaG, Special, Bourbon, WarNipple, etc.)

In my time with -W-, I believe I played in at least 15-20 matches with them. During that time, I didn't suspect that anyone was cheating on the team. What I remember about playing with sKILLz is that the talent he demonstrated regularly in pubs was legitimate and was at a high enough level that couldn't be explained with cheats ***8212; the intangible of having an immense situational awareness of what was going on in the flow of a competition to consistently know what the most important thing to do at a given moment was ***8212; was something that you only get a real good feel of from the best players in the game. In hindsight, it's not really surprising that as a part of his leadership with NuTz, their team was one of the (if not THE) first teams to popularize the concept of cluster****ing, as succeeding at that type of play is really dependent on maintaining strong situational awareness in what essentially is a cluster**** (thus the name).

In being in a shared chat channel with him during competitions, you also see a lot of the leadership he brought both in-game and out-of-game that really rallied a team together, though at many times from the outside, could be seen as pretty abrasive. It's really a classic case of a type of leader that you love to have on your team but hate their guts when they're on another team. Really, all it really was was a leadership style that was a ton of ****ing passion to stick up for and rally your team, at times at the expense of others (and the perception of others). To use an NBA analogy, the equivalent might be like a Kevin Garnett or a Draymond Green. As much as sKILLz might not like being compared to him, I found his leadership style to be very much like Rasta's at =S3=.

I wanted to call this out because if you look at all the posts that sKILLz is making in this thread ***8212; it's really just a continuation of that. His supreme confidence in his team and backing up his team to the end as a leader. Could many of his replies be more nuanced, less controversial, less inciting, and more conducive toward making this 20th anniversary come together? Probably! But as someone who has played with him and know who he is as a leader, it's really consistent with how I understand him. He's really proud of what he helped put together as a leader of -W- ***8212; a team from all indications that I've seen, succeeded without cheating ***8212; and as him being a leader who wants to back his team all the time, in a way that from the outside might look like it's being done very irrationally/unreasonably, I see him as someone who will lose it at any accusations toward -W- because of how proud he is of his team. It was a really fun and rewarding time playing with him, yet it's understandable to see from the outside how it can be seen the wrong way.
 
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itt we have the nepotist remax heir, basically a clone of fishstix except more open about supporting trump, trying to bait skillz into replying

every time skillz replies this guy feels like hes won something?

what have you won by getting a person to post on a forum

isnt that what forums are for?

why would you feel superior to a guy defending his tribes career on a tribes forum

skillz is right edofnor you're a nobody trolling yourself.
 
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jfcccc stfu skillz mun sho dat u wuz trash bak den n ya gon b trash weneva ya cum bak promiss u wont b gud wen ya fite mun u gon lose 8-7 after receevn 7 handicapz ok now stop tellin storeez of ya passt no1 giveafux n make ya luk lykma ya suk totez chit @ 20 yr old game gfg
 
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dang that stork guy is a boss
yeah i was in DaH with him!!!!
 
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Lots of people chirpin' but I don't see anyone backing anything up. Download a config and put your money where your mouth is.

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there were some rukus scrims sure but who cares about those

never played for doctors, never smurfed for teams.. i came along late, didnt get off dialup until after t2 and when i came back to play t1 you thought i was a smurf

played for rukus, said no to joining rainbow robots, farmers briefly, and eventually joined e5 to form a super team to beat super kov which was essentially the end of competitive base

oh yeah was on i$ for a little bit right before t2 came out i think
Mmm sounds like you'll have to settle this in T1. BYO team and come battle sKILLz .

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yeah i was in DaH with him!!!!
Don't feed into his ego, cocky little mofo always posting videos of him owning me already.
 
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Everyone whining about sKILLz and who cheated and who didn't and what was really going on back in the day doesn't actually know ****.

I want to hear this podcast he is promising, I already got a pretty good idea about what he is going to say about cheating and tribes and most people on TW were always terrible at tribes and never actually knew what was really going on in the competitive scene back in the day.
 
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we played against wolfpack once

it was 4 -w- vs eight of us

and they won because of happy flag
 
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you're a white male ...
 
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there were some rukus scrims sure but who cares about those

never played for doctors, never smurfed for teams.. i came along late, didnt get off dialup until after t2 and when i came back to play t1 you thought i was a smurf

played for rukus, said no to joining rainbow robots, farmers briefly, and eventually joined e5 to form a super team to beat super kov which was essentially the end of competitive base

oh yeah was on i$ for a little bit right before t2 came out i think
<3 thank you dutch. I apologize. I do not for what I said about your abilities and what you could have done, and who you could have played for. Thank you for posting in a way that was not well, rude and being a dick. I respect that and thank you for posting this. Please get others to post also from back then, even i$, strega, and all those guys, and rukus anyone to make this happen. It would be a fun time IMO. One last go all with 0 pings and no cheats possible

I am sure you will be on one of the 7 players a team possibly needs to make a team for the VEGAS LAN to happen- I would love to have you involved and meet you. If it happens and people are not smart enough to pick you up as a reserve? I would if I need one <3
 
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