LT2 and a old sniper balance idea

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GoFFe

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Good work sleepy, LT2 is step in right direction! :)

The sniper balance issue!

Now we had this problem in T:V aswell.. A lot of people think it's a lame weapon where you can just sit and camp and do a whole lot for your team hitting a few snipes, which I agree is lame and not tribes.

Many players brought up ideas how to fix this, and one player named Oak actually came up with a great one!

This idea did
* reward accuracy and consistency over a few lucky strong hits
* make it less frustrating being sniped at since now u arent about to die from only 1 hit anymore
* still make it possible to move/jet around a lot while sniping
* force snipers to actually use all weapons instead of just relying on the sniper

---THE IDEA---
Set Sniper to only deal 15 damage per snipe while also only drain 15 energy points from you. The RoF should be something like the plasma.

So now a sniper will need consistency in order to fuck someone up instead of only needing 1 strong hit. So it requires more skill for the sniper and less frustration for the players getting sniped at, since now you don't lose 70% of your hp from 1 hit. It also means snipers will be able to fly around but also force them to use all weapon to be truly effective.

PS. The damage value I wrote was for T:V, I honestly don't know how much hp a light has in tribes1 :D
 
2good@tribes.com said:
sniper has no palce in LT and that is the only tribe that exists now
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I agree. I think it's the dumbest idea ever that these idiots have tried to come up with after testing random shit for a few hours and thinking they're game mode creators. Netset can make the laser hitscan if you set it properly so it's a stupid fucking idea and you need to FUCK OFF.
 
i think lt2 could actually be pretty cool, it would have probably been a more intriguing mode than the normal LT if it were around like 12 years ago. the only things that i'd like to see balanced right out is that i really don't like sniping in tribes games and the blaster without energy is strong as fuck.

other than that i'm totally down for like an lt2 tourney / draft for people to actually flesh out strategies
 
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GoFFe said:
Good work sleepy, LT2 is step in right direction! :)

The sniper balance issue!

Now we had this problem in T:V aswell.. A lot of people think it's a lame weapon where you can just sit and camp and do a whole lot for your team hitting a few snipes, which I agree is lame and not tribes.

Many players brought up ideas how to fix this, and one player named Oak actually came up with a great one!

This idea did
* reward accuracy and consistency over a few lucky strong hits
* make it less frustrating being sniped at since now u arent about to die from only 1 hit anymore
* still make it possible to move/jet around a lot while sniping
* force snipers to actually use all weapons instead of just relying on the sniper

---THE IDEA---
Set Sniper to only deal 15 damage per snipe while also only drain 15 energy points from you. The RoF should be something like the plasma.

So now a sniper will need consistency in order to fuck someone up instead of only needing 1 strong hit. So it requires more skill for the sniper and less frustration for the players getting sniped at, since now you don't lose 70% of your hp from 1 hit. It also means snipers will be able to fly around but also force them to use all weapon to be truly effective.

PS. The damage value I wrote was for T:V, I honestly don't know how much hp a light has in tribes1 :D
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Due to most people's opposition to having a true hitscan option in LT, laser will most likely be removed. I included it to try to spark interest from a broader community (there are some actually skilled Anni players; Crow, Im looking at you =) )

My intention was to keep what the devs had implemented for all light armor options, this is why laser is currently optional in game

I dont see the lr as having a game changing impact in 5v5 CTF context; it limits a players ability to occupy position that provides optimal damage selection, player position(actual) and energy(potential), as well as accuracy % for disc and gl, which influence timings. (far more important than damage)

Also, if you add damage potential over 25 min game (rof*damage scale*weapon accuracy*player accuracy) and compare it to that of CG or the altered blaster, i think you'll find the latter options to yield more damage, which is the factor of concern

That being said, this is my view and i don't assume it to be universal

Balancing the weapons to be valid options should be a community effort and will require actual playtime rather than just theoretical application
 
rtcll said:
In the 17th year of tribe you'll need even more flag sense than what you don't have LOing if ur gonna home. Shield isn't gonna make u catch flags
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Ya you prolly right I guess I should stick to just playing on storks team and getting carried through drafts. I guess I'm still useless.
 
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