ok before i rebuke everything you just said. my original post wasn't aimed at you nor attacking your view. it was laying down some basic information.
Oh shit, son. We got ourselves a bold one!
p.s. I didn't say your original post was aimed at me. I simply responded to it.
feel free to believe what you wish, but scientifically speaking a fetus is a parasite(nicer word, symbiont, but the mother doesn't really benefit at all during pregnancy) till it can function on it's own without a host. and since we are talking about laws being implemented, no RELIGIOUS beliefs should be involved in the first place.
I have yet to bring up any religious point of view, because I don't give a flying fuck what the religion says (more specifically, what it
doesn't say), but okay.
if a baby is killed when born prematurely and out of the mother then yes it should be murder charge. the mother is separate from the child and the child is functioning on it's own. please make sure you make the important mental leap between having to be supported by another living being, and having to be supported by machines. in my opinion, if we had some way to remove a fetus without killing it and let it grow to childhood i would be all for it, but in the same thought that world would be a much different place and the idea of abortion would be moot.
Why should it be a murder charge? It's not even a person yet, right?
it's actually really is closer to black and white than not. any side of an argument is going to do what it can to win. but when it comes to the actual choice, it should always be the mothers as it's the mothers body. which is why i relate back to the idea that if a child can be removed from the mother and be able to survive than it should happen. if not, then it is not a child and should not be treated as such.
So the mother doesn't have to worry about "her body" when she's GETTING pregnant, but once she get pregnant, then it's a-okay to kill the unborn child, all because your opinion says so? Ah, gotcha.
your whole argument seems to be based around "women are liars and deserved/asked for it!" you honestly think the majority of reported cases are false? even though the mental and physical anguish a person has to endure to even report such a thing in today's society huge, you still think they are just lying? there is a percentage that is an outright lie, i will concede to that, but no where near the amount you think it is to call your stance valid.
No, retard. I was treating your reply with respect, but now you crossed over into the idiotic "emotions due the talking" zone. I never even mentioned the percentages of what rape accusations are false. I've read it's anywhere from 10-30%, but besides being "proven" in court to be false, it's not factual enough.
Either way, once again, I never even made that a talking point. I was merely pointing out the FBI's numbers on rape accusations reported and the bullshit number that liberals were using to support their personal beliefs.
the whole argument is about government funded abortion...
No, not really. The argument is specifically about liberals and anti-male groups lying and using bullshit numbers to justify their beliefs/actions.
If you wanted my opinion on government-funded abortion, I'd say allow it but only if you also cut the whores' fallopian tubes since they've proven that they can't control themselves and aren't responsible.
p.s. You've utterly failed at proving a single thing I've said wrong. It wasn't a bad post though, besides the "WAH U MUST HATE WOMEN" emotional part.