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because the bible was right to begin with,
Since it isn't [for example, Nazareth did not exist as an occupied village during Jesus' life time - aside from a number of other inconvenient details], the rest of your point is moot.
 
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btw - I love the developing tags for this thread. lol
 
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When there is no source, how can you make this claim?
what do you mean by source?
 
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I like cheese doodles.
 
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No.
In the instance in question, you are one of the saved.. right or wrong?
Why is my personal belief the hinge on which this charge swings? How does that validate your statement of egotistical bull**** without trapping yourself in the same accusation?

If you judge me on the certainty of my belief, I should assume you consider yourself judged as not saved? How are you so certain?
 
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gee and i thought the bible was the word of the council of nicea and their favorite authors. of course i dont expect togowack to know the history of his favorite book.
 
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Why is my personal belief the hinge on which this charge swings? How does that validate your statement of egotistical bull**** without trapping yourself in the same accusation?
My statement was that this worldview is never held by someone who assumes they are doomed to the less fortunate category. So, prove my point or negate it: state in writing whether in truth you are one of the saved, or one of the damned.

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If you judge me on the certainty of my belief, I should assume you consider yourself judged as not saved? How are you so certain?
I am not a member of your religion so I am not a victim of Original Sin; thus, I do not sin [because the rules of my Gods are vastly different than yours and sin does not exist in theirs], I don't require a savior, and I am not going to either your Heaven, nor your Hell. I am not a child of your God.
 
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This I know:

What the bible says is true. Christians are called to have an answer for why they believe, and that I do. But we are also given the word of God to tear down any false teaching or attack brought up against it, whether we use that power or not.

Fact is, most of you won't believe unless you see it. I can try prod you to venture on a limb and try believing part if it for your own good, but words can only go so far.

I know and have been reassured that in the end I will be taken up in the clouds, hopefully before I die. In the meantime, I will do what I've been given to do which is to seek the kingdom of heaven. Along with it will come honor, homage, respect and even riches, and a happy heart and probably long life.

My objective is to test the scriptures by doing what they say, not by just talking.
 
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So, once again, Togo avoids actually addressing valid opposition to stick fingers in his ears and sing homilies so he doesn't hear any further blasphemies.
 
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I just don't see what you get from all this talk, i've been arguing on this thread from like page 1, and am giving it a rest.
 
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I like cheese doodles.
 
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How do you know? By what method did you acquire this knowledge?
by testing. I wouldn't be so bold if I didnt have a life full of answered prayer.
 
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This I know:

What the bible says is true. Christians are called to have an answer for why they believe, and that I do. But we are also given the word of God to tear down any false teaching or attack brought up against it, whether we use that power or not.

Fact is, most of you won't believe unless you see it. I can try prod you to venture on a limb and try believing part if it for your own good, but words can only go so far.

I know and have been reassured that in the end I will be taken up in the clouds, hopefully before I die. In the meantime, I will do what I've been given to do which is to seek the kingdom of heaven. Along with it will come honor, homage, respect and even riches, and a happy heart and probably long life.

My objective is to test the scriptures by doing what they say, not by just talking.
so basically you're telling us that you're confusing faith with fact/truth. not even the pope is this delusional.
 
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maybe if you had a clue what the bible says, you wouldn't have said that.
 
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by testing. I wouldn't be so bold if I didnt have a life full of answered prayer.
examples of answered prayer plz.... and if its any form of expected generalization ill be sure to deride you and your lord of the rings devotion further.
 
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maybe if you had a clue what the bible says, you wouldn't have said that.
oh so you're arguing that because something is written that it must be truth. and yes i read a good deal of it.
 
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I like cheese doodles.
 
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It's called the scientific method. If a theory fails to meet validation via that method then the theory is false. It may come one day that we gain more knowledge and truth that refutes Einsteins theories via the scientific method. We are in a state of acquiring knowledge and it progresses unlike the bible.
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Well, time for some sleep. Will enjoy playing catch up.

VAB nothing left to Jehovah
 
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gosh, I didn't see this coming.

Since your so high on yourself though, I'm going to take some time to think it over. I doubt it'll happen in this thread.
 
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