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apollod 09-02-2008 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by DacTheHork (Post 13641911)
btw I officially take back my stance on being "owned". Seeing as it is the MMO business and the failure rate is high (albeit a lot of that is underfunded projects) it still stands to reason that 38 studios has not proven itself yet. I mean maybe I just missed the expert technical people when reading the bios, or the fact you are using bigworld takes some of that responsibility from you compared to blizzard/guildwars/warhammer but it still seems software engineer light. Although the MIT grad does alleviate some of that.

I guess in Jobs the fact that the only 2 openings are software engineers sorta addresses that fact. Obviously my post was more in TW fashion of being more "edgy" but there was some basis to it. If I had worded it less TW style and hadn't took digs at you I'm unsure if you would have felt the need to respond.

On that note though I hate PvE games so I probably won't be interested in it anyway (pvp 4 life)

Job postings mean ****... hell look at all the job postings for Blizzard:

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Administrative
# Administrative Assistant

Artists
Art Director
Senior 3D Environment Artist
3D Environment Artist
Associate 3D Environment Artist
Lead 3D Character Artist - Next-Gen MMO
Lead 3D Environment Artist - Next-Gen MMO

Concept Artist - Next-Gen MMO
User Interface Artist Unannounced Title
Associate 3D Artist
Senior 3D Environment Artist
Lead 3D Character Artist
3D Character/Weapons Artist
2D Artist

Business Intelligence
# Business Intelligence Manager
# Data Analyst

Creative Development
# Senior Producer
# Story Developer
# Copy Editor Asset Services

Cinematics
# Cinematic Animator
# Cinematic Compositor/Lighter
# Cinematic Tools Programmer
# Renderman Programmer
# Cinematics Desktop Systems Administrator
# Junior Simulation Technical Artist

Customer Service
# Lead In-Game Support Representative
(Austin, Texas)
# Customer Support Director - Blizzard EU
# Customer Service Representative
(Austin, Texas)
# Customer Service Representative
(Irvine, CA)
# Technical Support Representative
(Irvine, CA)
# Technical Support Representative
(Austin, Texas)
# Bilingual Technical Support Representative - Spanish Language
(Austin, Texas)
# Bilingual Technical Support Representative
# Call Center Representative
(Austin, Texas)
# Bilingual Call Center Representative - Spanish Language
# Bilingual Call Center Representative - Spanish Language
(Austin, Texas)
# Bilingual Customer Service Representative - Spanish Language
(Austin, Texas)
# International Customer Service Lead - Korean Language

Design
Senior Game Designer
Senior 3D Level Designer
Senior Game Designer
3D Level Designer
Senior Game Designer
Game Balance Designer
Level Designer
User Experience Director, Battle.net
# Multiplayer Systems Designer
# Tournament Systems Designer

Facilities
# Facilities Coordinator

Finance
# Accounting Manager
# Senior Accountant, Taiwan

Human Resources
# Site Leader

Information Systems
# VOIP/Telecom Engineer
# Administrative Assistant
# SAN Administrator
# Unix System Administrator
# Associate IT Project Manager
# Cinematics Desktop Systems Administrator
# Associate Database Administrator
# Associate Database Developer

Marketing
# Senior Graphic Designer

Mobile
# Software Engineer, Mobile
# Associate Software Engineer, Mobile

Online Technologies
Design Director, Battle.net
Lead Producer, Battle.net
Lead Software Engineer, Battle.net
Associate Producer, Battle.net
Senior Software Engineer, Battle.net
User Experience Director, Battle.net
# Associate Producer, Billing
# Web Layout/UI Designer
# Software Engineer, Web
# Associate Software Engineer, Web
# Web Designer
# Web Graphic Designer
# Web Scripting Engineer
# Senior UI Designer

Platform Technologies
Senior Software Engineer, Platform Technologies
Software Engineer, Platform Technologies

Programming
Senior Software Engineer
Software Engineer, Tools
Lead Software Engineer Unannounced Title
Senior Software Engineer, Graphics Next-Gen MMO
Software Engineer, Audio Next-Gen MMO
Software Engineer, Physics/Collision Next-Gen MMO
Software Engineer, Server - Next-Gen MMO
Software Engineer, User Interface
Senior Software Engineer, Graphics
Senior Software Engineer, Server
Senior Software Engineer, Tools
Software Engineer, Tools
Senior Software Engineer, Battle.net
Senior Software Engineer, Platform Technologies
Software Engineer, Platform Technologies
# Senior Software Engineer, Mac team
# Senior Software Engineer, QA Tools

Public Relations
# Assistant Editor
They clearly lack technical people based on their job postings

FalseMyrmidon 09-02-2008 00:08

Dac is trying way to hard.

Gringo 09-02-2008 00:11

next someones gonna bring up the fact that curt likes the idea and graphics for d3 and dac is gonna lose his ****.

Strega 09-02-2008 00:14

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Originally Posted by DacTheHork (Post 13642006)
Strega what's SOE's market share?

like 1%? Yeah I don't think he will be asking them for advice except to learn from their mistakes. EQ2 has less subscribers than EVE.

Blizzard has the biggest share, I don't know what SOE's share is, but it's way above 1%. I just work on the Network now, no more game designing or operations stuff for me.

SOE has some big things on the horizon which I'm happy to say I'm excited about.

Free Realms
DC Universe Online
The Agency

DacTheHork 09-02-2008 00:20

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart1_file...6_image001.png

I think it's safe to say SOE will become less and less relevant in the MMO market.

Vir 09-02-2008 00:22

poor lineage, wow really ate into its base. SOE needs a comeback bad.

Strega 09-02-2008 00:22

You do realize that that graph looks totally ridiculous due to the sheer quantity of people playing WoW right? Oh, and 2/3 of WoW users are outside the US.

HeLLrAiSr 09-02-2008 00:26

they still count as people, unfortunately

hyung 09-02-2008 00:28

hi curt schilling

Strega 09-02-2008 00:36

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Originally Posted by HeLLrAiSr (Post 13642117)
they still count as people, unfortunately

It's not unfortunate for anyone...

HybridX 09-02-2008 01:00

lol crazy tw and it's hatred towards anything other then tribes 1

Evil Engineer 09-02-2008 01:47

sweet **** did Dac just end up summoning curt schilling?

FalseMyrmidon 09-02-2008 02:19

Maybe if we work at it we can get Derek Smart up in here next?

buize 09-02-2008 02:37

:rofl: jeffraisr got owned by curt schilling in this thread

dan-o2 09-02-2008 03:03

curt, as someone who doesn't play wow or any mmorpgs, played a beta of wow until like level.. 15 and only found amusement in naming a pet raptor 'aquaman,' what would you say your title would provide to bring me in as compared to say, any other mmo ever?

also i dont really know anything about baseball but i liked the giants a lot when i was a kid. is barry bonds a dick? would he have been a dick in the range of 7-9 years ago (this is when i liked baseball)

also would you like t play mercenaries 2 co-op? its really fun

thanks!

DacTheHork 09-02-2008 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan-o2 (Post 13642469)
curt, as someone who doesn't play wow or any mmorpgs, played a beta of wow until like level.. 15 and only found amusement in naming a pet raptor 'aquaman,' what would you say your title would provide to bring me in as compared to say, any other mmo ever?

also i dont really know anything about baseball but i liked the giants a lot when i was a kid. is barry bonds a dick? would he have been a dick in the range of 7-9 years ago (this is when i liked baseball)

also would you like t play mercenaries 2 co-op? its really fun

thanks!

fag

Dude the only thing released on the game is the name and 5 concept drawings so I don't think he is gonna burst out with it on Tribalwar. They will probably work on some huge magazine/website deal to break loose all the initial information.

dan-o2 09-02-2008 03:09

like i read the post really now, filsinger just told me earlier during mercs co-op (its fun curt trust me) about the post so i skipped around until i saw him call you a retarded ******


also curt i wanted to pitch when i was in little league but the coaches son got the spot. i feel like you too have suffered adversity in your pursuit of baseball, this is somemthing we could relate to eachother with while blowing up gasoline tankers

Perfect Prime 09-02-2008 03:32

:wave: curt

Love R.A. Salvatore and Todd McFarlane

High hopes for this game, don't let me down!

Breyer 09-02-2008 06:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gehrig38 (Post 13641808)
Problem is you are talking about 'twitch' games, without saying it;) That's a scary line to cross in the online world.

If you can promise me every single player in our world will have the same latency and connection issues/non-issues, then you have got something.

awareness and acuity are in many cases time and reaction sensitive. There is CERTAINLY a place for it but there are pitfalls as well.

I would bet we'll all be in a much better place in a few years when Copernicus launches as far as internet connection goes, both in customer base and technical progress, but at the same time I would argue that just like you don't 'make a tech play' when creating a monster like this, you don't 'bet' on those things to be in place for your product to be good.

After playing countless games with the same low-level mechanics, more and more of which are going to keep on coming down the pipe, people are eventually going to want an MMO with twitch. I'm already there, but I'm not confused about why it just can't happen successfully yet.

Right now, as you say, on our far from perfect internet, it just can't work. I mean what do you do, for example, about people who run cheats in an online game that needs to be partially developed to trust the client for certain mechanics that can shift the balance of play? The impact of some asshat with an aimbot is amplified when you've got thousands of people with characters they've spent hundreds of hours developing and someone can just ruin their day without even having to try to actually play the game like everyone else.

So maybe if your game is a huge success and somewhere down the line the technology is advanced enough to pull something like this off, you can make that game for us too?

Great. Thanks buddy.

Bender 09-02-2008 07:52

they should make a spawn mmo


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