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bonepuppet 01-15-2010 10:46

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Originally Posted by zorro (Post 15241102)
why did the media not give any coverage of that huge earthquake in pakistan in 2005 that killed 80,000 people?

people i work with had never heard of it.

2005 Kashmir earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tell me why confidential

this was all over the news for weeks, maybe because i'm in canada?

Zlex 01-15-2010 10:49

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Originally Posted by Got Haggis? (Post 15241237)
he said " Mother Earth is pissed about global warming, so she takes out her anger on millions of the poorest people on the planet" ?? really? realllly??

What?

No. He think thats that Global Warming caused the Earthquake.

Monkey_b 01-15-2010 10:57

Who's to say it didn't?

I'm going to pull out the same card that "skeptics" of climate change use all the ****ing time and say "we understand so little about the earth and how climate affects it" that who are we to rule out that warming of the planet could lead to increased (or more violent) seismic activity?

I still wouldn't have made such a statement if I were Danny Glover, but as skeptics, including the OP would say, "we simply don't know". I mean, how much faith can we really have in our climate models and their accuracy, RIGHT GUYS??!

There could be a relationship there, just like there could be a chance that mans ridiculous pollution of the atmosphere has nothing to do with the planets warming, and just like the rapid change we're seeing in the environment could actually be completely natural and it's just a coincidence that man industralized in the last 100 years.

Just saying.

ScottTheWise13 01-15-2010 10:57

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Originally Posted by bonepuppet (Post 15241267)
this was all over the news for weeks, maybe because i'm in canada?

it was all over the news in the US, too

Grief 01-15-2010 11:14

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Originally Posted by Monkey_b (Post 15241300)
Who's to say it didn't?

I'm going to pull out the same card that "skeptics" of climate change use all the ****ing time and say "we understand so little about the earth and how climate affects it" that who are we to rule out that warming of the planet could lead to increased (or more violent) seismic activity?

I still wouldn't have made such a statement if I were Danny Glover, but as skeptics, including the OP would say, "we simply don't know". I mean, how much faith can we really have in our climate models and their accuracy, RIGHT GUYS??!

There could be a relationship there, just like there could be a chance that mans ridiculous pollution of the atmosphere has nothing to do with the planets warming, and just like the rapid change we're seeing in the environment could actually be completely natural and it's just a coincidence that man industralized in the last 100 years.

Just saying.

And what of the mainstream media that refuses to cover this possibility? God Bless Danny Glover for saying what the government and corporations are afraid to talk about.

Not that I'm saying it's true, but just throwing it out there.

Respice 01-15-2010 11:25

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Originally Posted by Monkey_b (Post 15241300)
Who's to say it didn't?

Just saying.

People who don't like to make uninformed wild ass guesses. I would think the complete lack of any empirical scientific data relating climate change and earthquakes would be enough.

But keep pontificating on it in the name of intellectual discourse, maybe you'll kick start a few brain cells and realize all the **** you say is utter nonsense.

Waidan 01-15-2010 11:25

And we can't rule out the Devil's involvement in this, right Monkey_b? I mean, given how little we know about him, there could have been a pact, and this could be some sort of Satanic voodoo magic. Or maybe Satan is pleased with our efforts to industrialize this planet, and this is his way of giving humans a pat on the back? We just don't know!!

RamataKahn 01-15-2010 11:33

Danny Glover has always been an idiot. Climate change has always been around, it's just being used to make money now.

Ztir 01-15-2010 11:39

regardless if we are the cause of climate change or not, dumping millions of tons of pollution into the environment every year is not awesome and any attempt to decrease our waste output as a whole is not as bad as big business would like you to believe

bonepuppet 01-15-2010 11:44

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Originally Posted by ScottTheWise13 (Post 15241301)
it was all over the news in the US, too

apearantly not where zorro lives

Monkey_b 01-15-2010 11:47

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Originally Posted by Respice (Post 15241386)
People who don't like to make uninformed wild ass guesses. I would think the complete lack of any empirical scientific data relating climate change and earthquakes would be enough.

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Originally Posted by Waidan (Post 15241387)
And we can't rule out the Devil's involvement in this, right Monkey_b? I mean, given how little we know about him, there could have been a pact, and this could be some sort of Satanic voodoo magic. Or maybe Satan is pleased with our efforts to industrialize this planet, and this is his way of giving humans a pat on the back? We just don't know!!

Thanks for validating my point.

Given we have a pretty good understanding of the planets climate system only a complete delusional retard would suggest that the rapid environmental changes we're observing have little (if anything at all) to do with man, and that until we discover ALL UNKNOWNS we can't rule out the possibility that it's all completely natural and that we shouldn't take any action until we know for sure

It's on par with Waidan suggesting that you can't rule out whether or not I signed a pact with the devil, or that inaction at copenhagen is the reason for the haiti earthquake... because you can't unprove it, kind of like god.

Wowbagger 01-15-2010 11:55

Monkey_b, stop. I believe global warming is happen. But your idea is ****ing retarded. We have a pretty good idea on what factors go into earthquake, and atmospheric conditions don't mean ****.

Monkey_b 01-15-2010 12:01

I think you're missing my point Wowbagger. If you can subscribe to the skeptics line of thinking in suggesting that "we cant rule out" the possibility that the planets rapid environmental changes have zero to do with man, then you can't really lambast danny glover for trying to draw a link between atmospheric conditions and earthquakes, because "we cant rule out" that possibility either.

Both notions are equally absurd if you put any stock into our understanding of the Earths climate system, so I thought Icey starting this thread was ironic since he and his kind always use the unknowns to validate their skepticism.

Zlex 01-15-2010 12:14

Even Wowbagger thinks you're a ****ing moron Monkey

Monkey_b 01-15-2010 12:21

no u r

ZooL 01-15-2010 12:26

icey is a hateful rassis

Vlasic 01-15-2010 12:27

what a band of ****ing morons on this page

ScottTheWise13 01-15-2010 12:35

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Originally Posted by bonepuppet (Post 15241427)
apearantly not where zorro lives

i guess he doesn't get cnn or fox or nytimes or anything where he lives

Vanster 01-15-2010 12:42

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Rilke 01-15-2010 12:49

I think the criticism of Robertson/Glover is misguided because it assumes they are stating logically merited positions rather than making sales pitches in light of the "opportunity of a crisis" (cf. the misreading of a Chinese character ). Both Robertson and any political actor in the US are pragmatists, using events to further their cause because crises demand public relations coverage.

Robertson is a straight up Friedmanist, after the economist, because ostensibly God is a "free-market" Capitalist (the fact that the New Testament declares otherwise, notwithstanding). Glover is a barker for a cause. There's a slight difference. But I suppose both want people to open up their checkbooks.


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