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epidemic 03-17-2016 01:53

no one thinks bush was better

thats the dumbest **** ive ever heard

bush was literally the ****tiest president we've ever had

his cocaine addled brain wouldnt even allow him to string together coherent sentences let alone serve the people

he was a disgrace to the office and i cringe every time someone reminds me about his dumb ass

Pirate Steve 03-17-2016 02:01

al gore?

ScooBySnaCk 03-17-2016 02:21

Bush was a tardlet but he was a good man really who took things in stride. He acted on poor information fed him.

He was not the worst by far.

Carter was as far as the most semi recent, THEN Bush, Then Obama.

epidemic 03-17-2016 02:25

we're gonna get those terrorists

now watch this drive

Reggs 03-17-2016 02:38

Carter was simply ineffective. Bush actively achieved a lot of stupid things. Huge difference.

LouCypher 03-17-2016 03:09

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18542372)
So a couple of issues with your response Lou:

1. You are using the racist words, not me. Do not for one second think you know who I am or my values...I look at what people do...for themselves, for their community, for their country...not the color of their skin. I have served with some amazing people of color, and only saw green. So if you think I am a racist, you are like every other Trump hater...if you like the guy over the girl, you are a sexist and if you like a white person over a person of color you are racist. Way to be shallow.

The old "some of my best friends are black" defense? Such hatred of Obama and appreciation of W is hard to explain any other way. I doubt if his father weren't Kenyan we would be having this discussion.

You said he's "divisive and neither practices or supports american values", but it's hard to unite people that were against him from the start, remaining stubbornly opposed on principle. Considering a majority got him into office not once, but twice, maybe you're the one out of touch with what "American values" are today.

You think Romney lost a close election? Think of all the kids who were 14 in 2012, who have gay friends you would keep out of the military or deny the right to marry, going to the polls in 2016.
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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18542372)
2. No, he did not call them soon enough. Your link to Ft Hood - did you read it? SIX ****ING YEARS???? Oh, we can't listen to the FBI when they have evidence that that ****tard major was a radical muslim, and wanted to kill US soldiers....it was a terrorist attack on day two.

Of course I read it. The question is: what qualifies as a "terrorist attack"? Is every attack by a Muslim a "terrorist attack"? Was Dylan Roof not a "terrorist" because he had no affiliation with a "terrorist" organization?

If you look at Hasan and see no credible connection to AQ, ISIS, or any other network, then he's another "radicalized individual" committing an "act of terror" on his own, just like Roof, or several mass shooters.
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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18542372)
3. Clinton could have taken out Bin Laden too, did you know that?

Who said anything about Clinton? I asked you why Bush was a better "leader" than Obama. There were multiple opportunities to take out Bin Laden, and we didn't do it until Obama was "commander in chief".
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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18542372)
if you think that if we were to pull out every US person from every middle east country that all would be better you are an idiot. They will still attack the US for ideological reasons, so yes, I want a commander in chief who acts in the best interest of our nation.

What kind of military presence does China have in the Middle East? Is AQ/IS targetting them?

These groups hate us because of our support of Israel and the Saudi royals, and our presence in their territory. Without those instigating circumstances, there's no reason for them to hate us.

No candidate with a chance of receiving the nomination of the Republican or Democratic party is going to change our relationship with Israel, in direct contradiction to the "best interest of our nation", including Trump.

Senty 03-17-2016 03:45

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18542444)
What kind of military presence does China have in the Middle East? Is AQ/IS targetting them?

:huh:

Yes.

Within China some Uyghurs are aligning themselves with AQ/IS.

Outside of China Chinese citizens have been targeted in Africa.

Pengo 03-17-2016 04:13

is there any good website with legit reasons to convince people not to vote for trump?

like a compilation of his crazy opinions and quotes and youtube videos that's all nicely put together? I think I want to put a sign on my lawn or something

some normally rational people I know seemed to give trump way more credit/respect than he should have. I guess if you only listened to the big debates or read the headlines of mainstream news he doesn't seem so bad, but I'm convinced if people actually hear the crazy **** he says they would realize their mistake

oh i found it
http://antitrump.com/

but seriously is there a website like that?

Huscarl 03-17-2016 04:19

I want to dispel the notion that people are terrified of Trump for his policy views and lack of political experience. This is not the case. People are afraid of Trump because, wittingly or unwittingly, Trump has numerous Fascist tendencies.

- scapegoating minorities
- opposition to free speech: i.e. encouraging supporters to assault protesters and talking about how he hates the press
- stating he would force the military to violate the Geneva convention
- threatening riots against the GOP

Even though Trump has some policy ideas I like, there's no way I can vote for an enemy of free speech.

Reggs 03-17-2016 04:31

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Originally Posted by Huscarl (Post 18542458)
I want to dispel the notion that people are terrified of Trump for his policy views and lack of political experience. This is not the case. People are afraid of Trump because, wittingly or unwittingly, Trump has numerous Fascist tendencies.

- scapegoating minorities
- opposition to free speech: i.e. encouraging supporters to assault protesters and talking about how he hates the press
- stating he would force the military to violate the Geneva convention
- threatening riots against the GOP

Even though Trump has some policy ideas I like, there's no way I can vote for an enemy of free speech.

What socialist jew do you want to be president?

ArakAtak 03-17-2016 05:09

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Originally Posted by coombz (Post 18542373)
trumpmania has taken over the globe

I was taking a **** here just now @ work (in white atlantis) and I could hear two dudes talking about him

they were trying to make excuses for you guys...like "it's not their fault, most of them don't have passports and don't understand anything about the world other than what is on their TV"

kinda touching really

We were talking about it a work the other day as well. Basically we wished we had someone to sort out all these brown people who are spoiling it for the rest of us.

I wanted to take the family to a carnival the other day but unfortunately it was spoiled by Sudanese and Pacific Islanders chimping out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq20ca7Riq8

Best part is the accent on the dude being interviewed, reminds me of Murray from flight of the conchords

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ucwIq-Ys4Q

coombz 03-17-2016 05:23

u should hop over to white atlantis ay bru

much more chilled vibe here ;)

LouCypher 03-17-2016 05:32

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Originally Posted by Senty (Post 18542451)
Within China some Uyghurs are aligning themselves with AQ/IS.

They're aligning themselves, they're not an extension of either. Their main beef is with the oppression they've been subject to in their own country, same as Chechens in the former Soviet Union.
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Originally Posted by Senty (Post 18542451)
Outside of China Chinese citizens have been targeted in Africa.

Infidels from anywhere are targets of opportunity for jihadists when they're in their land.

Tyco 03-17-2016 07:15

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18542365)
You mean like the Benghazi attack? Or the San Bernadino attack? Or maybe Fort Hood?

I'm seeing a double standard here. Dyan Roof wasn't a terrorist because he's white? He didn't call the others "terrorist attacks" soon enough? He should be calling more of these shootings "terrorist attacks"?

Yes, Obama is the one with the double standard. Within a day of the Nov 2015 Planned Parenthood shooting, Obama declared it domestic terrorism. A day after the San Bernadino attacks, Obama said we should not judge too quickly.


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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18542365)
We get it. You hate this ****** in the White House who was "commander in chief" when we finally took out bin Laden and brought your brothers home from Afghanistan. This "divisive" ****** is letting gays in your military and keeping boots of the ground in Syria.

It's one thing to hate Obama. It's totally delusional to think W was by any metric better.

The most valuable intelligence used to find Bin Laden was from waterboarding during the Bush administration. When ending the war in Iraq, Obama followed the time tables set by Bush. Gays were actually first allowed in the military because of a lawsuit brought by the Log Cabin Republicans in a legal process that started before Obama came to office. It was also a Republican-controlled congress that first passed the pro-gay military legislation, prior to Obama signing it. I'd say the Bush administration and components of the Republican party are to just as much credit, if not more so, to those achievements than Obama.

ArakAtak 03-17-2016 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by coombz (Post 18542471)
u should hop over to white atlantis ay bru

much more chilled vibe here ;)

I know eh

I was looking at a job with Rocket Lab the other week. The problem with New Zealand is it's like living in the 50's but without the good bits.

Good fishing tho

Pagy 03-17-2016 09:13

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Originally Posted by epidemic (Post 18542437)
we're gonna get those terrorists

now watch this drive

awwwww shieeeeeeet u saw that michael moore movie too brah?

Kerosene31 03-17-2016 09:25

http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/29/...-donald-trump/

absent 03-17-2016 09:31

The actual reason "The Federalist" doesn't want people supporting The Trump is because its founder, Ben Domenech is a jew and Trump told jews their vote is insignificant and that he can't be bought by them. Just some perspective.

RandalltheVandal 03-17-2016 09:35

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Originally Posted by Kerosene31 (Post 18542509)

Paul D. Miller teaches public policy at The University of Texas at Austin. He is a research fellow at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

Sounds like a PC Policy maker 2 me

MasterGnr 03-17-2016 09:40

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18542444)
Such hatred of Obama and appreciation of W is hard to explain any other way. I doubt if his father weren't Kenyan we would be having this discussion.

I cannot just dislike the guy for how he has performed? If I do you immediately label me racist. Typical liberal response.

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it's hard to unite people that were against him from the start, remaining stubbornly opposed on principle. Considering a majority got him into office... maybe you're the one out of touch with what "American values" are today.
I edited this for future reference because if a majority of Americans vote for Trump and he wins, and does so even though so many are against him, I expect you to show the same understanding and compassion you are expecting of me

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"The question is: what qualifies as a "terrorist attack"? Is every attack by a Muslim a "terrorist attack"? Was Dylan Roof not a "terrorist" because he had no affiliation with a "terrorist" organization?
I like Tyco's response, and will add that of course Dylan was a terrorist - he committed an act of terror. What I do not like is the double standard this administration has created where if 2 white guys beat up a black person it is a hate crime but if a gang of black teens beat up a white veteran in a fast food joint and scream "black lives matter" while they do it, it is obviously just a normal assault and probably the result of white privilege which is bad so why should we really blame these disenfranchised youths? The liberal bull**** is too much for me.

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Without those instigating circumstances, there's no reason for them to hate us.
You are seriously uninformed about those groups man....go learn something

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No candidate with a chance of receiving the nomination of the Republican or Democratic party is going to change our relationship with Israel, in direct contradiction to the "best interest of our nation", including Trump.
You are anti-Israel, I get it. But I am not sure how that is relevant to this discussion but ok.

I do not like being called a racist, but seriously why is it that the left feels so strongly that if you don't like Obama it is because you are a racist?


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