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Thingfish 03-31-2016 12:12

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18548947)
I agree that every American has the right to own a firearm, unless they have lost that right legally or have shown themselves to be a danger to themselves or to others. If they are unbalanced, they should not have them. Even you have to agree that you should keep weapons out of the hands of unbalanced people.

Iran has proven itself to be untrustworthy and unbalanced. Letting them have nukes is not an option. If they could be trusted to have nuclear power that would be fine. But they can't.

If you cannot see that, then I don't think you belong in this conversation with the adults.

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I'm curious as to what you think Iran has done to be "proven to be untrustworthy and unbalanced".

Eggi 03-31-2016 12:27

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Originally Posted by Thingfish (Post 18549090)
I'm curious as to what you think Iran has done to be "proven to be untrustworthy and unbalanced".

repeatedly claiming that you want to remove an entire state & stoking sectarian violence in the region makes the global community squeamish

JoMo 03-31-2016 12:27

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Originally Posted by Thingfish (Post 18549090)
I'm curious as to what you think Iran has done to be "proven to be untrustworthy and unbalanced".

Iran's October missile test violated U.N. ban: expert panel

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...0TY1T920151216


Although you can apply this to Saudi Arabia and various other states as well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism

LouCypher 03-31-2016 12:52

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Originally Posted by havax (Post 18548916)
well you certainly don't act like a libertarian.

you act like a liberal progressive.

I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 12:53

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18549108)
I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

So you want free **** for everyone but don't want to pay for it?

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LouCypher 03-31-2016 13:02

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18548947)
Iran has proven itself to be untrustworthy and unbalanced.

How much of that "unbalance" had to do with US involvement in overthrowing democratically elected government and supporting the rule of the Shah until the revolution in 1979?

It's like setting someone on fire and saying they're "manic" because they're rolling around on the ground trying to smother the flames.

LouCypher 03-31-2016 13:09

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18549110)
So you want free **** for everyone but don't want to pay for it?

I don't believe for-profit companies should be involved in the justice system, educational institutions, or the healthcare industry. Capitalism only works when the consumers have the choice to opt-out.

As a member of the military, aren't you entitled to VA benefits, a GI bill, and a pension upon retirement? Don't talk to me about the cost of helping our country when you're benefiting from the biggest welfare program we've got: the Department of "Defense".

Thingfish 03-31-2016 13:14

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Originally Posted by Eggi (Post 18549095)
repeatedly claiming that you want to remove an entire state & stoking sectarian violence in the region makes the global community squeamish

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoMo (Post 18549096)
Iran's October missile test violated U.N. ban: expert panel

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...0TY1T920151216


Although you can apply this to Saudi Arabia and various other states as well...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism


So ... nothing that our own government and our own allies haven't done - in spades.

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 13:16

Name another job that is all voluntary until you sign up (then you can't quit) where you agree to put your life on the line and fight...and kill...for your country. You have no compression of the sacrifices service members make. We have EARNED the benefits you list.

Some ****ing lazy **** who lives off the nation's teet cause that is how mamma did it and is how they were taught, and cries disenfranchised people if someone threatens to take it away....he did not earn it.

They could serve and earn the benefits, but they choose not to.

If you want to bash my service and the benefits we have EARNED, do it after you go through what we have.

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RandalltheVandal 03-31-2016 13:21

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18549117)
I don't believe for-profit companies should be involved in the justice system, educational institutions, or the healthcare industry. Capitalism only works when the consumers have the choice to opt-out.

As a member of the military, aren't you entitled to VA benefits, a GI bill, and a pension upon retirement? Don't talk to me about the cost of helping our country when you're benefiting from the biggest welfare program we've got: the Department of "Defense".

uh u consider our vets who take advantage of GI BIll and those things as welfare recipients?


ur ****in loony.

and i hate most people in the military.

Walking_Man 03-31-2016 13:55

Iran is about to become the next state of the US economic empire and these dumb niggas can't figure out the saber rattling from iran is coming from their military leadership desperately trying to keep that from happening to preserve their own influence
http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources...=CDEE86C0MZ300

LouCypher 03-31-2016 14:27

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18549126)
Name another job that is all voluntary until you sign up (then you can't quit) where you agree to put your life on the line and fight...and kill...for your country. You have no compression of the sacrifices service members make. We have EARNED the benefits you list.

You get all those benefits if you're a grunt getting shot at or if you're just an equipment tech fixing vehicles all day. I've got compassion for soldiers injured in the line of duty, but I'm not going to call someone a hero just because they put on a uniform or "volunteered" for service because they lacked better options with what to do with their lives. Even if you aren't injured you get free healthcare through the VA system, but god forbid the people paying for those benefits share in some of them. After your service has ended we're expected to give preference to former military in hiring, or contribute to charities to support them even more.

The DoD gets a blank check to spend whatever they want, a lot of it on things we can't even know about because it's "classified". Call me un-American, but I'd be totally fine with cutting the defense budget in half once every four years and spending the other half on "welfare" like healthcare and a college education for everyone.

naptown 03-31-2016 14:31

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Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18549126)
Name another job that is all voluntary until you sign up (then you can't quit) where you agree to put your life on the line and fight...and kill...for your country. You have no compression of the sacrifices service members make. We have EARNED the benefits you list.

Some ****ing lazy **** who lives off the nation's teet cause that is how mamma did it and is how they were taught, and cries disenfranchised people if someone threatens to take it away....he did not earn it.

They could serve and earn the benefits, but they choose not to.

If you want to bash my service and the benefits we have EARNED, do it after you go through what we have.

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you signed up to kill people for money

that deems you a mercenary, not a freedom fighter

you put your life on the line for no one, protected no one, and killed because you're either mentally ill or unemployable

its great that "service" members arent really getting thanked anymore for their "service" because everyone knows you did what you did because you had no other options

eat **** jarhead scum, glad u cant sleep at night

WarBuddha 03-31-2016 15:12

:rofl:

This thread got amusing real quick.

The sacrifice isn't just at getting shot at. Go sit on a boat for 9 months or go live in a connex box in the desert for 6 months. You ****ing clowns have no idea the **** that most people in the military have had to deal with.

To compare that to sitting at home collecting a monthly check for literally doing nothing, actually, doing nothing is how you get that check, is a whole new kind of clueless.

Continue though, the ignorance on this page alone is outstanding.

naptown 03-31-2016 15:17

u said u signed up for the navy for a cush job and free travel

i mean u literally have said that dozens of times

now it's a great burden, a sacrifice that no one can understand, and an honorable duty for your country

you went to a ****ty college for a history degree and realized u aint **** but an elementary history teacher at best

better join the navy for those school loans u burned up for an education in history that somehow eludes u in every historical discussion on this forum

amazing, not really, just shows you how ****ing retarded most of the military really is

WarBuddha 03-31-2016 15:35

History is pretty vast, learning 3000+ years in 4 years is what we call impossible. Now you want to talk about specific time periods in specific areas than maybe we could have a conversation.

The military stays a volunteer force by offering compensation and benefits. If you get rid of retirement, GI bills, and medical care, you would have to restart conscription, because I guarantee you they would never have the quotas they desire.

It's called a contract, for services provided you receive compensation. Considering an E-3 makes like 15-20k a year, which would put them in the poverty zone, I wouldn't say they are the "biggest welfare recipients".

Work 60 12 hour days in a row and then come bring that **** to me.

naptown 03-31-2016 15:46

our nations finest

lmao

samUwell 03-31-2016 15:51

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18549117)
you're benefiting from the biggest welfare program we've got: the Department of "Defense".

wut?

WarBuddha 03-31-2016 16:04

Lou is one of those guys who has probably never left his home town

naptown 03-31-2016 16:05

u claimed u joined the navy just so you could see the world

again, u literally said that

lmao

samUwell 03-31-2016 16:14

The insanity of the hemorrhoidial supporters of feeling the Bern is just jaw dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ves_IY1uw

"your opinion = hate speech" Seriously, i saw a sign that said that.

WarBuddha 03-31-2016 16:25

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Originally Posted by naptown (Post 18549229)
u claimed u joined the navy just so you could see the world

again, u literally said that

lmao

So because I joined to travel means I don't have to deal with the bull****? Would I have joined had the benefits not existed? Probably not.

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 16:34

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Originally Posted by naptown (Post 18549170)
you signed up to kill people for money

that deems you a mercenary, not a freedom fighter

you put your life on the line for no one, protected no one, and killed because you're either mentally ill or unemployable

its great that "service" members arent really getting thanked anymore for their "service" because everyone knows you did what you did because you had no other options

eat **** jarhead scum, glad u cant sleep at night

Actually, I signed up to join the United States military. Since said military is a requirement written in the Constitution I not sure you can consider me a mercenary.

And I agree that if you took away the benefits that they would need to bring back the draft. But only for a year or two and then libs would be screaming to pay them more, give them more benefits, and calling draftees victims...leading back to voluntary service.

I won't argue that some folks join because they have not better options, but some of us did it because we wanted to serve. I gave 21 years. I now have a pension and a great job.

I kept my commitment and think I am being rewarded for my hard work. It's a shame the entitlists will never understand that message.

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Dangerdoggie 03-31-2016 16:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDumsN1NCGg

lol

KingSobieski 03-31-2016 16:47

It'll be hilarious when warbuddha crunches the numbers and realizes hes been making 5$ an hour for his service.

Military is a slight step above slavery, but not much.

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WarBuddha 03-31-2016 16:50

:lol:

god some of you are beyond misinformed

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 16:59

They are as capable of understanding as they are of completing basic training.

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naptown 03-31-2016 17:20

yes i cant imagine how difficult basic training is

where only the bottom 1/4 of your grad or non-graduating high school peers complete it

it must be a true test of manhood

Walking_Man 03-31-2016 19:09

You can really tell who the people are who are completely delusional about their military experience when they act like the military is a high speed, low drag force of competent, motivated, intelligent workhorses and they don't see the reality on the base around them that 80% of enlisted are a bunch of lazy, mouth breathing idiots who can barely perform basic functions and have to actively try to keep themselves from drunkenly raping overseas 17 year olds to forget about the horrible deppendopotamus they have living back home.

And the other 20% of miraculously competent enlisted can't actually do their job efficiently anyway because of the crushing weight of military bureaucracy and officers who for the most part couldn't manage a 7/11.

http://i.imgur.com/oT8uP4G.jpg

Reggs 03-31-2016 19:45

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Originally Posted by Walking_Man (Post 18549318)
You can really tell who the people are who are completely delusional about their military experience when they act like the military is a high speed, low drag force of competent, motivated, intelligent workhorses and they don't see the reality on the base around them that 80% of enlisted are a bunch of lazy, mouth breathing idiots who can barely perform basic functions and have to actively try to keep themselves from drunkenly raping overseas 17 year olds to forget about the horrible deppendopotamus they have living back home.

And the other 20% of miraculously competent enlisted can't actually do their job efficiently anyway because of the crushing weight of military bureaucracy and officers who for the most part couldn't manage a 7/11.

http://i.imgur.com/oT8uP4G.jpg

This is true. I've met some very focused and competent people who were in the military, some who mostly joined because they had poor upbringings and it was the best option to "get out" of whatever middle of bumble**** USA upbringing they had, but a majority of men who have been in have just been really stupid people with some variation of short man syndrome.

The worst was one guy I worked with, total room temperature IQ who had serious control issues. He dated an underage teenager(big red flag for being a total loser), and was a BDSM freak, he had a BDSM book that was as thick as a dictionary in his desk at work. He also had an obsession with keeping locks on everything, setting up security cams everywhere, and installing software on computers so he could turn the mic/cam on remotely.

He also would not shut up about the military, frequently wear camo pants and his boots to work, kept the military haircut even though he was out, and when he got angry said stuff like "I wish we were all in the military so I could just get in your face and start yelling at you." We butted heads a lot and what he hated about me is that I got past his veneer and did not take him seriously and it bruised him. Once you took away some concept of codified hierarchy he was just at a loss for dealing with other males. It was one of the strangest and most satisfying work place conflicts I've experienced.

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 19:50

If you guys really believe that this describes the majority of veterans, I feel sorry for you because you are so misinformed and think the exception is the rule.

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naptown 03-31-2016 19:58

the only veterans i consider are the ones who were forced into battle

you had many options in life, you chose to be a merc assassin

swallow that pill, its a large one

u might need to crush it up and put it in your applesauce because you're retarded

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 19:59

Wow, you are one seriously ****ed up dude. Hope you are getting help.

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naptown 03-31-2016 20:03

you're the only murderer in this conversation

maybe you should get some help

those gunshots u hear in the middle of the night that cause myoclonic jerks and wake your wife(who has probably already left you for being a jarhead idiot)

i'm glad you have those, you killed for (below) minimum wage

you're the lowest form of human scum next to ******s (who kill eachother because they spraypainted the wrong color on their rivals sidewalk)

you're in mental sorrow and that makes me happy

u weakling ******

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 20:50

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Originally Posted by naptown (Post 18549348)
you're the only murderer in this conversation

maybe you should get some help

those gunshots u hear in the middle of the night that cause myoclonic jerks and wake your wife(who has probably already left you for being a jarhead idiot)

i'm glad you have those, you killed for (below) minimum wage

you're the lowest form of human scum next to ******s (who kill eachother because they spraypainted the wrong color on their rivals sidewalk)

you're in mental sorrow and that makes me happy

u weakling ******

too funny...stop calling me a jarhead, I didn't serve in the USMC. I have no PTSD issues, but friends do and since you know nothing about their battle they have you have no credible opinion.

I am intrigued by your disdain for the professional soldier/volunteer. Are you advocating that the US should have no standing military at all?

Since I rarely read your posts...you may be a non-US person and I don't know it. If so, please let me know. thx

CapnPyro 03-31-2016 20:51

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...vices-assault/

So the 19yr old sjw was an instigator, found she wasn't groped, the old man isn't pressing charges but the police probably will

Waiting for a msm correction story

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 20:53

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Originally Posted by CapnPyro (Post 18549374)
[url]

Waiting for a msm correction story

rofl

CapnPyro 03-31-2016 20:55

:sunny:

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 20:58

and kudos to the old man for not pressing charges....better man than me. I would have pressed charges and then sued the MSM

KingSobieski 03-31-2016 21:34

I did work alongside a black army vet.

The guy actually did work hard, in fact, even harder than the drunk rednecks.

But then he quit.

:( I lost my black unicorn.


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