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Odio 03-30-2016 14:47

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO3I5VBEE_4

Validuz 03-30-2016 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanster (Post 18547321)

This is a dead serious question: do you believe nearly any of those numbers are remotely accurate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18547971)
Without the bailout they could have just said "**** it, we're closing, nobody is getting paid" leaving creditors, suppliers, and their employees out in the cold. We could have added GM and Chrysler to the long list of defunct automobile manufacturers. Their former employees would go on unemployment, retire early, and/or apply for government assistance in the form of food stamps or Medicaid. You think $14 billion was a big loss? Imagine that tax burden.

Companies should fail for starters, you dumb hypocritical ****. One second you're whining about corporate subsidies, the next you're advocating for bailouts.

Oh and when people file bankruptcy, they don't just walk away with trillions in their pocket. And people buy up companies that go bankrupt.

Your grasp of any related to economics is childlike.

Thingfish 03-30-2016 18:34

So ... Trump busting open the abortion nut (for some reason).

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us...tion.html?_r=0

Quote:

Donald J. Trump, pressed Wednesday on his support for a ban on abortion and what it would mean in practice, said that ***8220;there has to be some form of punishment***8221; for women who have abortions.

Less than three hours later, Mr. Trump revised himself, issuing a written statement saying that such a ban would criminalize only those performing the procedure, not the women getting abortions. ***8220;The woman is a victim in this case, as is the life in her womb,***8221; he said.

JoMo 03-30-2016 18:45

It was basically a hypothetical question that if abortion were BANNED, do you believe in punishment for abortion? He said he did.

KingSobieski 03-30-2016 19:35

Dunno how you illegalize something and back it up w zero punishment.

The media is ratcheting the Trump mania up to 11

The abortion thing aside; he said he'd send the issue back to the states. That should make the libertarians happy.

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StapleMammal1 03-30-2016 19:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf-nPngyAcY

Vanster 03-30-2016 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingSobieski (Post 18548692)
illegalize

criminalize

KingSobieski 03-30-2016 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanster (Post 18548701)
criminalize

When it comes to words n math I play by my own rules red skin

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StapleMammal1 03-30-2016 20:26

He thinks he is a paleface tho. Don't get in his #safespace.

ScooBySnaCk 03-30-2016 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thingfish (Post 18548661)
So ... Trump busting open the abortion nut (for some reason).

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/31/us...tion.html?_r=0

Next news story: "Trump hates Asians" (when asked if he would like kung pow chicken for lunch and he declined)

Fool 03-30-2016 22:00

General Tso is a good friend of mine. Great guy.

LouCypher 03-30-2016 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Validuz (Post 18548641)
Companies should fail for starters, you dumb hypocritical ****. One second you're whining about corporate subsidies, the next you're advocating for bailouts.

I'm not advocating for anything. It was a response to MasterGnr's defense of the bank bailout under Bush and the criticism of the auto industry bailout under Obama. He just hates Obama and will make any excuse under the sun for W.
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Originally Posted by Validuz (Post 18548641)
Oh and when people file bankruptcy, they don't just walk away with trillions in their pocket. And people buy up companies that go bankrupt.

Usually accompanied by mass layoffs when consolidation happens with the new owners who realize they don't need thousands of the employees that used to work for their new acquisition.

A new owner can just buy up the company and move production to Mexico, or China, or anywhere else there aren't unions and the labor is cheaper.

MasterGnr 03-30-2016 23:22

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Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18548800)
I'm not advocating for anything. It was a response to MasterGnr's defense of the bank bailout under Bush and the criticism of the auto industry bailout under Obama. He just hates Obama and will make any excuse under the sun for W......

I believe Obama has been a horrible leader, and has taken America down a dangerous path. He has created divisiveness, alienated law enforcement (which he is in charge of), neutered CBP, and emboldened dangerous actors on the world stage. NK launching missiles, Iran saying they want missiles and not a treaty, Putin acting with impunity, Assad using chemical weapons after an empty threat of the "line" by Obama...I could go on and on.

Obama using catch and release with illegal aliens, who go on to **** and murder American citizens. And if I or any other white person says that is wrong we are labeled a racist. Forcing the CBP to ignore law and fudge numbers. He has perpetrated a fraud on the American people. Plain and simple. Talks about having a transparent administration - does the exact opposite. He is a crap leader...but a decent community organizer!

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A new owner can just buy up the company and move production to Mexico, or China, or anywhere else there aren't unions and the labor is cheaper.
Well, Trump actually wants to raise tariffs so high on companies that take jobs overseas that it is cheaper to stay - an idea I really like. Go after Apple first.

Now the libs will scream that putting America First and putting other countries' needs second isn't being a part of the world community. **** that - I say let's see how the world community does without our money and protection.

America First!

MadHatSam 03-30-2016 23:43

Yep American politics weren't divisive before Obama, no sir.

Togowack 03-30-2016 23:50

The case against Obama is simple. On Facebook you will see a lot of this, people saying that past administrations sold arms to the Middle East and that somehow excuses the activity ongoing to this day, which has created ISIS and the refugee crisis.

Ask about the Iran agreement and how giving them nukes helps us, the case is as simple as that

GreyGhost 03-31-2016 00:16

shut up Togo

LouCypher 03-31-2016 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18548841)
Well, Trump actually wants to raise tariffs so high on companies that take jobs overseas that it is cheaper to stay

Or they'll just pass the cost onto consumers and make everything we buy even more expensive.

KingSobieski 03-31-2016 00:33

America has enough resources and people we could pursue an isolationist policy. Wtf do we need the globe for?

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LouCypher 03-31-2016 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togowack (Post 18548859)
Ask about the Iran agreement and how giving them nukes helps us, the case is as simple as that

Maybe if Iran had nuclear weapons we'd be forced to deal with a country diplomatically instead of invading, replacing their leaders, getting our soldiers killed, and giving rise to more terrorist organizations.

The hypocrisy of the US and our allies with nuclear weapons telling the rest of the world they can't have them is unbelievable.

JoMo 03-31-2016 00:33

Flashback!

http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/02/bu...torcycles.html

Togowack 03-31-2016 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18548885)
Maybe if Iran had nuclear weapons we'd be forced to deal with a country diplomatically instead of invading, replacing their leaders, getting our soldiers killed, and giving rise to more terrorist organizations.

The hypocrisy of the US and our allies with nuclear weapons telling the rest of the world they can't have them is unbelievable.

The important thing here is that you, and those like you, admit you knowingly gave them nukes. How could anyone be for the proliferation of nuclear arms???

StapleMammal1 03-31-2016 00:44

Armed neighbors are polite neighbors.

Togowack 03-31-2016 00:45

If I ever had doubts about bible prophecy they have been completely and soundly erased. I don't know a single part of the bible that isn't being fulfilled right now, except for the absolute worst/(best, from point of view) parts

LouCypher 03-31-2016 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togowack (Post 18548891)
The important thing here is that you, and those like you, admit you knowingly gave them nukes. How could anyone be for the proliferation of nuclear arms???

I'll admit no such thing.

We live in a world where the natural progression of technology in a country as it develops includes the use of nuclear energy, and by consequence, the potential for nuclear weapons.

We have them, we're the only country in the world that have used them, and we're one of the few telling every other country in the world they're too dangerous to allow them to have.

We weren't just keeping Iran from having them with threats of preemptive military strikes by us or Israel, we also wanted to keep them from developing nuclear power, insisting they remain dependent on fossil fuels or clean energy.

Togowack 03-31-2016 00:54

The ignorance is astounding. You probably voted for Obama only now to regret it as you took 8 years to figure out his real agenda. You can't google your own leader that is putting millions out of work and driving the middle class to suicide, and the rest of the world needing strong leadership but imploding on itself (Europe)

The requirement is simple, as stated by Trump: Iran must stop teaching its kids that Israel is to be wiped off the map.

What will happen, is this: We (the West) will take part in an invasion of Israel. Israel is going to win and expand territory by thousands of miles, signing the 7 year peace treaty. That is beginning of the 7 year tribulation, which for most of the world is actually 3.5 years and then apocalypse.

If you haven't noticed, the countries getting the brunt of the 666 invasion (666 is read in the East as 'allah is God') are the ones who imposed the harshest policies on Israel

by participating in the invasion of Israel, we are setting the immediate stage for the war George Washington saw as the 3rd tribulation for USA

LouCypher 03-31-2016 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togowack (Post 18548911)
You probably voted for Obama only now to regret it as you took 8 years to figure out his real agenda.

I've voted Libertarian in every Presidential election since I turned 18.

Togowack 03-31-2016 00:58

California is going to be sunk.

havax 03-31-2016 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18548913)
I've voted Libertarian in every Presidential election since I turned 18.

well you certainly don't act like a libertarian.

you act like a liberal progressive.

Togowack 03-31-2016 01:07

No, Loucypher is on the fence, but he is part of the new generation that is completely lost (maybe he not quite as bad)

Goshin 03-31-2016 01:10

You're Canadian
Go die in the snow mongloid

StapleMammal1 03-31-2016 01:15

Lou and I disagree about a lot but I have to admit he is right about this. :shrug:

MasterGnr 03-31-2016 02:04

I agree that every American has the right to own a firearm, unless they have lost that right legally or have shown themselves to be a danger to themselves or to others. If they are unbalanced, they should not have them. Even you have to agree that you should keep weapons out of the hands of unbalanced people.

Iran has proven itself to be untrustworthy and unbalanced. Letting them have nukes is not an option. If they could be trusted to have nuclear power that would be fine. But they can't.

If you cannot see that, then I don't think you belong in this conversation with the adults.

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Brasstax 03-31-2016 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterGnr (Post 18548947)
I agree that every American has the right to own a firearm, unless they have lost that right legally or have shown themselves to be a danger to themselves or to others. If they are unbalanced, they should not have them. Even you have to agree that you should keep weapons out of the hands of unbalanced people.

Iran has proven itself to be untrustworthy and unbalanced. Letting them have nukes is not an option. If they could be trusted to have nuclear power that would be fine. But they can't.

If you cannot see that, then I don't think you belong in this conversation with the adults.

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I don't care if people are a danger to themselves. We are a free people. If adults don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet - let them be. If people want to do heroin until they die - let them die. These are the things that help keep the world fun and also self-cleansing. I think people should be free of policing for many things if it doesn't cause harm or dangers to others.

motoxbudd 03-31-2016 02:20

lou, and everyone like him, needs to die asap. merkel and obama thought they were doing right by bringing destruction to usa and europe from the inside. instead, all theyve done is speed us up to civil war which will no doubt prove benefitial in the end by physically eliminating the diseased human filth like lou and and the scum he supports

StapleMammal1 03-31-2016 02:34

Fun fact: In 400 years Iran has not attacked any country.

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absent 03-31-2016 04:33

https://i.imgur.com/S8WHnRr.jpg

mrkshammerhand 03-31-2016 05:18

the negative 24/7 is starting to wear on trump. he got caught by a gotcha question that started with "if it was illegal" by mathews.
since he is not a politician he is not used to this kind of thing.

they will be trying to crucify him for it tomorrow.

StapleMammal1 03-31-2016 06:19

If it was illegal there should be punishment is what he said.

JoMo 03-31-2016 11:43

Yeah, but the long standing 'rule' is that 'women are victims of abortions'. Meaning they aren't responsible for getting knocked up and having an abortion. It's the person doing the abortion that's the criminal if it were to be illegal.


crazy thinking, I know.

KingSobieski 03-31-2016 11:58

How about the government ties all tubes at birth so there's no chance of needing abortions

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