Originally Posted by JuggerNaught (Post 18564466)

Well Colorado has done pretty well with tax revenue, but its still not so much that they can bully things like petroleum interests. Hemp threatens a LOT of markets

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18564475)

but look at the DEA and ATF budgets.....not to mention corrections industrial complex (that has over 1 in 6 people incarcerated for just marijuana) if you really want to see "show me the money"

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18564343)

the same tax stamp bull**** u now want to see all guns put under

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564440)

No there aren't.

*waits for "big pharma" to be mentioned, with zero sources to back it up....*

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564479)

So is the prison industrial complex actively trying to keep marijuana illegal, and if so, is there any evidence of this?

Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18564483)

You think pharmaceutical companies are the only ones feeling threatened by legal marijuana?

There's a lot of money to be made keeping marijuana illegal when companies are running prisons for profit and administering probation systems. Law enforcement agencies used the seized assets as an income source.

Biodiesel from hemp oil could put petroleum companies out of business. Lumber companies can't beat the fiber yield per acre, and cotton grows slower and in fewer climates.

Originally Posted by Odio (Post 18564485)

It's called lobbying you ****ing imbecile. They don't disclose what the money is for or how much they get, because we have no contribution transparency laws.

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564487)

So, is there any evidence of these industries spending any money to keep it illegal?

Originally Posted by StapleMammal1 (Post 18564495)

They just want to get doped up and handed free stuff because they are too stupid to actually work or learn anything of actual worth.

Originally Posted by LouCypher (Post 18564520)

There's a good episode of This American Life about a judge that took bribes so defendants in her court were put in a system run by a for-profit company.

If you want to read new articles about private prison lobbying, just google it.

One such result is the Lobbying efforts of Corrections Corporation of America.

Here's a nice PDF from the National Council on Crime & Delinquency.

It's astounding you don't think profit is a counterproductive incentive when it comes to criminal justice, healthcare, or education.

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564487)

So, is there any evidence of these industries spending any money to keep it illegal?

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564524)

I was asking for lobbying by those groups to keep marijuana illegal. Learn to read dip****.

Originally Posted by Captain Tele (Post 18564475)

I think you guys are looking at all the wrong contenders about maintaining the status quo

sure the ones you mentioned matter

but look at the DEA and ATF budgets.....not to mention corrections industrial complex (that has over 1 in 6 people incarcerated for just marijuana) if you really want to see "show me the money"

The same reason our foreign policy is ****ed up is the same reason our WAR ON DRUGS is so asinine.

MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY

Originally Posted by Reggs (Post 18564470)

You know nothing about business.

Any textile business that has something that will be "replaced" by help would be the first business to capitalise on it. It would actually be good them because it would most likely lead to vertical integration. So much cotton comes from overseas. If we could grow hemp here, textile companies would love it and get into the farming business.

This is just hot air. Of course you can't find any evidence that textile companies are trying to keep hemp illegal.

Originally Posted by Odio (Post 18564555)

Who the **** gets wasted at work? Your example is stupid.

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18564562)

Calm down slappy.

I take it you never had a room mate / friend who smoked some weed /did some lines before going to their job or used their break to do some goods?

Originally Posted by Shiloh (Post 18563968)

Easy loans means the college have little to no reason to reduce costs. The cost of tuition and housing continues to rise well above that of inflation, and has done so since the 70s. Their consumers are uninformed highschool children who sign up for a lifetime of non-dischargeable debt, doing so on the advice of retarded guidance counselors and the liberal bourgeois. In order to take full advantage of their uninformed consumers, colleges lower the bar and create retarded and useless disciplines like mythological communication. The idea that encouraging naive youngsters to rack up monsterous 200k plus debt in useless disciplines should be encouraged rather than criminalized is appalling.

It used to be that someone could easily pay off tuition with a part time job + summer work while going through college. With illegal immigration plus current college costs, that is impossible. Thanks liberals, for making college unaffordable by trying to make it more affordable.

For some reason, liberals look at payday loans and rightly see usury. But when benefits liberal college professors and can't be removed through bankruptcy, then its ok.

Originally Posted by Goshin (Post 18564582)

In the 70s the government paid for 75% of college.
Now it's 20%

I think that's the problem

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18564562)

Calm down slappy.

I take it you never had a room mate / friend who smoked some weed /did some lines before going to their job or used their break to do some goods?

If you believe that people don't get ****ed up before work or during work hours, you are an ignorant dip****.

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18564562)

Calm down slappy.

I take it you never had a room mate / friend who smoked some weed /did some lines before going to their job or used their break to do some goods?

If you believe that people don't get ****ed up before work or during work hours, you are an ignorant dip****.

Originally Posted by -SS- (Post 18564551)

Why should I care if people smoke some herb? What people do in their private lives is nobody's business. Leave them the hell alone.

That said, there is a catch though: I dont think people should be at a place of business ****ed up while at work. Puts peoples' lives on the line or damages the business with wrong orders, etc.

Just imagine someone ****ing up your order after you have paid for it. Or someone being killed by heavy equipment or whatever because they were on the clock wasted. Who is held responsible, the business or the employee?