Flunky 09-11-2001, 01:11 PM Originally posted by Kurten (AFO)
Doppler was showing abolutely clear skies before this happened. Now....looks like a fucking fallout zone. That doppler image is fucking evil.
I don't know what that is supposed to represent, but it's not a representation of clouds or dust or anything - I live and work well within that blob depicted there and it has been crystal clear all day...
Flunky 09-11-2001, 01:13 PM See the Binghamton chart?
http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p20-r/si.kbgm.shtml
SuperTrap 09-11-2001, 01:13 PM Wow.. this is almost overwhelming. This day is right up there with the worst in history.
Originally posted by WiZarD
Tell me how you get enough firepower and manpower on a passenger jet to take complete control over it? They also had pilots on the fuckin jets that did this. No way any pilot would do such a thing if he was gonna die anyways. This could have been prevented. That's a pretty big fuck up on security. People were either bought out or were just too inempt to take care of their job. Its a shame. I would hate to have something like that on my conscience.
Not so...
It would be relatively easy and hard to prevent.
There are non-metallic hand guns that will NEVER be detected by airport metal detecters.
You can have non-metallic knives made of epoxy materials that will never be detected. A knife can kill a person just as easily as a gun in a close place.
Plus the jets were almost empty. One had 56 passengers and what if 4 of them were terrorists? Very easy to take control of the jet and all the terrorist need is some rudamentary knowledge on how to fly a plane.
The only way to to do anything marginally secure is to have armed guards on the planes, absolutely NO carryon luggage and strip seaches before entering the plane. Otherwise it is easy to smuggle on a weapon.
Urgewyrm 09-11-2001, 01:14 PM All you need is the pilot.
A couple of guys, take the cockpit, only one to fly it.
Barricade themselves in long enough to get to NYC...and boom.
Passengers might not even have known wtf hit them. Has anyone confirmed reports that the FBI/FAA/whatever knew there was a hijacking in progress?
Bounty 09-11-2001, 01:14 PM Did anyone mention that all of these planes were headed to LA?
Or the fact that they were probably chosen for hijacking due to the amount of fuel they would have to have onboard for the journey?
This thing was planned out very well. I only hope we find those responsible and hold them accountable with swift justice.
(Sorry if this was already mentioned - I just got home from DC)
Sariel 09-11-2001, 01:15 PM http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001314514,00.html
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 11 2001
Osama bin Laden 'warned of attacks'
Followers of Osama bin Laden, the suspected Saudi terrorist, gave warning three weeks ago that they would carry out a "huge and unprecedented attack" on American. interests, a London-based Arab journalist said today.
Abdel-Bari Atwan, the editor of the Al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper, said that he received a warning from Islamic fundamentalists close to bin Laden, but did not take the threat seriously.
"They said it would be a huge and unprecedented attack but they did not specify," Mr Atwan said in a telephone interview.
"We usually receive this kind of thing. At the time we did not take the warnings seriously as they had happened several times in the past and nothing happened. This time it seems his people were accurate and meant every word they said."
Mr Atwan, who interviewed bin Laden in 1996 and has since maintained contacts with his followers, said he believed that the attack on the World Trade Center in New York was the work of "an Islamic fundamentalist group" very close to bin Laden.
The United States accuses bin Laden of operating a terrorist network from his bases in Afghanistan, and of blowing up two American embassies in East Africa in 1998. The Taleban, who have refused to hand him over, deny the charge.
Mr Atwan said he was surprised by the scale of the attack, but said it was merely a continuation of bin Laden’s "Fatwa" - religious edict - against America. He said that anti-American sentiment was running high in the Middle East because of perceived United States support for Israel.
bone_crusher 09-11-2001, 01:16 PM Hey PJ
can you make a script that call a shape on colision...
Like this:
You make a building...
And make a (crashed_version of building)
and make a exploding version of building
than
when a bomber crashes the building the script call the exploding and after the crashed building making an animation
of the crash...
Can you pj???????
ps: I wanna make a NY bombing map...
SuperTrap 09-11-2001, 01:16 PM Originally posted by Sariel
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001314514,00.html
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 11 2001
Osama bin Laden 'warned of attacks'
Followers of Osama bin Laden, the suspected Saudi terrorist, gave warning three weeks ago that they would carry out a "huge and unprecedented attack" on American. interests, a London-based Arab journalist said today.
*snip*
Kill him.
Originally posted by Futzy
Then you are no better than they are PJ. The individuals, and groups responsible for this should be dealt with as decisively as possibly. The USA is an extremely strong country, with unbelievable resources. We all know that this is an act of war. Those responsible WILL pay, dearly.
I think we agree on that point PJ. I think carpet bombing countries sympathetic to terrorists is something we won't see.
There is now a job to be done. I'm quite certain the US will handle it quickly and with surgical precision.
It is a very sad day indeed my friends.
Yes there would be a difference. On one hand they know that they are targetting for assassination at anytime and any place. no civilians will get killed only the members of their organization. That is true terror inflicted upon the terrorist.
The other isn't terror but the assured knowledge that if you harbor or support terrorists then your country is going to have military action taken against it.
And I know there will not be carpet bombing but if a country is found to be behind it you can bet there will be bombings.
SuperTrap 09-11-2001, 01:18 PM Are you watching CNN right now? The flight paths?
*Edit
They are getting the info from http://www.flightexplorer.com/ but they are not available.. probably swamped.
DocHolliday 09-11-2001, 01:19 PM Originally posted by bone_crusher
Hey PJ
can you make a script that call a shape on colision...
Like this:
You make a building...
And make a (crashed_version of building)
and make a exploding version of building
than
when a bomber crashes the building the script call the exploding and after the crashed building making an animation
of the crash...
Can you pj???????
ps: I wanna make a NY bombing map...
If you are serious: Die retard.
If you are kidding: Die retard.
Yetskii 09-11-2001, 01:20 PM Originally posted by Roga
Couple things:
The palestinians were celebrating in Jerusalem(?). This was on ABC news earlier this morning. Haven't been looking on the web for news so couldn't give ya a site.
Second, we just saw a hell of a lot of our rights disappear in flames. America will never be the same. We will tighten down security and our individual rights will get even more restricted. I'm not advocating either way just saying what I think will happen :(
Read about it here....
http://www.jpost.com/
It's not like that's a bad thing PJ...it's about time the United States did something...
Notorious 09-11-2001, 01:20 PM http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/images/DS.p20-r/SI.kokx/latest.gif
I came home mid 2nd period from school when i heard this had happend, i've been in shock all day.
Originally posted by bone_crusher
Hey PJ
can you make a script that call a shape on colision...
Like this:
You make a building...
And make a (crashed_version of building)
and make a exploding version of building
than
when a bomber crashes the building the script call the exploding and after the crashed building making an animation
of the crash...
Can you pj???????
ps: I wanna make a NY bombing map...
If that doesn't get you banned then this forum is damned pathetic.
El Mariachi 09-11-2001, 01:20 PM Originally posted by CapnPyro
mariachi where do you work/where
I live in Lakewood, and where I live I can see downtown Cleveland.
I work in strongsville, which is two exits away from the airport.. where we had a bomb scare on a plane.
Curious_George 09-11-2001, 01:21 PM Bone_crusher needs a good ban for being a fucking idiot.
Diabolic 09-11-2001, 01:22 PM Originally posted by AKA Panama Jack
If that doesn't get you banned then this forum is damned pathetic.
Although bone_crusher made my ignore list in record time, having seen that quote, I agree 100%. Ban him. No excuses for that.
LoS-Primal 09-11-2001, 01:25 PM Originally posted by bone_crusher
Hey PJ
can you make a script that call a shape on colision...
Like this:
You make a building...
And make a (crashed_version of building)
and make a exploding version of building
than
when a bomber crashes the building the script call the exploding and after the crashed building making an animation
of the crash...
Can you pj???????
ps: I wanna make a NY bombing map...
I don't advocate violence as a norm, but if you said that and I could here, I would kick the living shit out of you. Ban this fuckhead.
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