Alvarez
05-29-2009, 11:01 AM
More than a Feeling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_Than_a_Feeling)
According to this, the song goes between the key of D Major and G Major... I am confused on how D Major can be the key?
Anyone wanna chime in... Key of G Major would be chorded G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em, F#dim I don't see how it ever breaks away from this even in the verses.
Rudi3
05-29-2009, 06:21 PM
The short answer is it's stupid guitar player jargon that differentiates from the accepted terminology of music theory.
Alvarez
05-29-2009, 11:07 PM
Rudi3 I am a guitar teacher. I don't use guitar jargon like this? What jargon makes the verse part the key of D?
(not saying you are wrong just looking for more insight)
Backslash
05-30-2009, 12:02 AM
Alvarez, I'm with you. C isn't present in the D major scale (C# is). G major seems to fit though.
On a different note - great song. Student request or personal quandry?
Alvarez
05-30-2009, 12:25 AM
Alvarez, I'm with you. C isn't present in the D major scale (C# is). G major seems to fit though.
On a different note - great song. Student request or personal quandry?
It began with an ear training excercise I assigned to a student... they picked this song I pulled it up on youtube real quick and recognized it to be G maj. Then sent her on her way to figure it out. The next week I corrected her and she outted herself as to looking on wiki and finding the key... heh.
I have been stumped since thinking... is there something I am missing?
Benzer
05-30-2009, 11:11 AM
I'm wondering if it has to do simply with the fact that the verse begins with a D chord. A lot of people teach that the first chord of the song is usually what key the song is in. In this case it wouldn't be, but it would go along with someone mislabeling the verse as D major. Since the chorus begins with G major they would then think of this as a key change even though it isn't really.
Found this little bit of info...
Info on bVII (http://books.google.com/books?id=2Ck_1S-xetgC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=more+than+a+feeling+ke y+d+major&source=bl&ots=u6IlnRYvk0&sig=PwErw7sH2eKpQMfF6C7XD CAkFxw&hl=en&ei=61QhSve_FcLBtwflguCyBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8)
I think the presence of the Am at the end of the verse really makes this G major and not D.
Starting the song with a D makes it seem like a I-I-bVII-IV, but really it's V-V-IV-I.
Alvarez
05-31-2009, 03:12 AM
I'm wondering if it has to do simply with the fact that the verse begins with a D chord. A lot of people teach that the first chord of the song is usually what key the song is in. In this case it wouldn't be, but it would go along with someone mislabeling the verse as D major. Since the chorus begins with G major they would then think of this as a key change even though it isn't really.
Found this little bit of info...
Info on bVII (http://books.google.com/books?id=2Ck_1S-xetgC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=more+than+a+feeling+ke y+d+major&source=bl&ots=u6IlnRYvk0&sig=PwErw7sH2eKpQMfF6C7XD CAkFxw&hl=en&ei=61QhSve_FcLBtwflguCyBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8)
I think the presence of the Am at the end of the verse really makes this G major and not D.
Starting the song with a D makes it seem like a I-I-bVII-IV, but really it's V-V-IV-I.
Yea I assumed they thought it was D because the verses main chord was the V chord and not the I. I know there can be some odd rules that come into play with theory but I am starting to think my 1st assumption was correct... this song is in G and the wiki is wrong...
old_skul
06-01-2009, 11:05 AM
More Than A Feeling is in D Mixolydian. That's also G Major.
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Alvarez
06-01-2009, 03:53 PM
More Than A Feeling is in D Mixolydian. That's also G Major.
Someone has brushed up on their scales and modes! I remember when I would post on threads talking about the relative phrygian or Mixo and you would tell me there was no need for mode knowledge, to just play from the heart. hehehe
I think a good mix of heart and knowledge is the best way to go.
old_skul
06-01-2009, 10:43 PM
While I believe that playing from the heart is necessary to make good music that others can connect with, I learned my modes and relative scales about....er, 21 years ago :)
I don't think one needs to know the modes to play music - but dayum, it sure helps when you're trying to map out the fretboard.
Been getting into augmented and dominant scales lately. The goth band seems to have this thing for dom Phrygian. Lots of minor 2nds and dim5s.
Alvarez
06-05-2009, 03:21 PM
While I believe that playing from the heart is necessary to make good music that others can connect with, I learned my modes and relative scales about....er, 21 years ago :)
I don't think one needs to know the modes to play music - but dayum, it sure helps when you're trying to map out the fretboard.
Been getting into augmented and dominant scales lately. The goth band seems to have this thing for dom Phrygian. Lots of minor 2nds and dim5s.
hmm.. it was you or new_skul... one of you skuls that used to dog me everytime someone would ask a music question and I would answer it and refer to scales. I remember thinking... "damn theres nothing wrong with knowing what you are doing and knowing your instrument not just ear musicians can write! lol"