I hate bicyclists on the road

I would love to do a critical mass in Budapest.

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SOOOOO many people.

Also if you drive between 5-10pm on the last friday of the month you're not very smart. Shit happens the same time the same day every month.

This website has all the times and dates for each city if you want to work around them... or just go for a leisurely bike ride with them. http://critical-mass.info/

You're just mad because your fatass can't fit on a bike.

they don't bother me one way or the other. Mostly because they aren't anywhere that isn't populated mostly be idealistic college students living on mom and dad's money or hippies who need yet another excuse for their lives spent smoking weed and finding excuses for why to not look for active employment.

that plus i have no problems running over bicycles in my truck. Its actually quite enjoyable.

Except you have never run over any bicycles fatass

Damnit, I hate them.

Yeah, I know it's environmentally better and "share the road" and all that nonsense. I don't care - bicyclists on the road are obnoxious douchebags. Imagine being on a road that has a 45 mph speed limit and getting stuck behind a bike going at 10. It's frustrating.

It gets worse in residential areas - there's no room to overtake the bike, so you're stuck behind a slow moving bike all the time.

God forbid you end up at an intersection controlled by stop signs. Bicyclists somehow think they are immune to stop signs. You'll come in, and when it's your turn to go, some bike comes rolling through and ruins traffic.

Seriously, what the hell? I could probably name another hundred reasons I hate them, but I don't care.

Wait, no, one more: Critical Mass. Perhaps the absolute worst idea ever. Causes accidents, blocks ambulences, basically breaks the law... what the hell? Die.

Even though I have the "Bikes would solve a lot" thread going, I agree. I never ride on the road, always take the sidewalk.

I live in Philly and I HATED it when there is a nice sidewalk for them to ride on but they insist to be on the road and go 15 mph less than the speed limit.

Usually riding a bicycle on the sidewalk isn't permitted...

impeding traffic with them isnt allowed either. doesnt seem to be a problem

impeding traffic with them isnt allowed either. doesnt seem to be a problem

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I used to ride my bike on the sidewalk because I thought it was safer, but then I was almost hit twice by people flying down to the end of their driveway and didn't see me because of a hedgerow or a building. I don't ride on the sidewalk anymore.

And I really try and obey traffic laws. I never blow through a red light, I'll stop and make sure it is safe before I go through it.

The name "Critical Mass" is taken from Ted White's 1992 documentary film about bicycling, "Return of the Scorcher". In the film, George Bliss describes a typical scene in China, where cyclists often cannot cross intersections because there is automobile cross-trafic and no traffic lights. Slowly, more and more cyclists amass waiting to cross the road, and when there is a sufficient number of them -- a critical mass, as Bliss called it -- they are able to all move together with the force of their numbers to make cross traffic yield while they cross the road.
For the win.

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You're dumb if you think critical mass hurts the environment. As far as the demonstration being counter-culture you're absolutely right. The transportation culture in America is a long way from being efficient or environmentally friendly. We're moving into an era where we no longer have an excess of wealth or energy resources. It's time to give the car a rest and use your feet or ride a bike until new forms of transportation come out.

I enjoy annoying drivers on the last friday of every month and I will continue to do so because it's fun and if one or two people think... "hey I should ride a bike too" then it's worth it. A lot of people agree with critical mass even when they have to sit at an intersection for an extra 3-4 minutes.

I don't understand why you're so against it. How does it negatively affect you or the environment?

Do you think you're actually convincing anybody to ride a bike doing what you're doing? Like bicycles are some new invention and you are bringing awareness about a new, previously unknown way to commute?

The main reasons people decide to ride a bike instead of drive - price of gas, help the environment / get outdoors or lose weight/exercise. More people get turned off thinking green because of shit like Critical Mass than those encouraged by it.

If you all put your collective man-hours together you could do something far more constructive. There's a group in Vancouver that collects old bikes people intend to throw out, fixes them and then uses those bicycles to promote bicycling. They offer free, scenic rides to people who don't normally bike (eg don't own a bike), run bicycle safety programs, loan people bikes to ride to work instead of driving - a sort of try before you buy thing and they donate bicycles to poor children to promote a culture of bicycling.

I applaud them. I'd like to run you over with a semi-truck because critical mass is designed to be confrontational. Pushing people around only works if you can intimidate them in some way - and nobody is scared of a bunch of pot smoking hippies. It just makes everyone mad.

here in colorado nobody rides to work, they just ride in circles... they dont follow sidewalk or traffic laws. it makes me want to run them over so bad

here in colorado nobody rides to work, they just ride in circles... they dont follow sidewalk or traffic laws. it makes me want to run them over so bad
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I ride 16.5 miles each way to work most days.

I stay off sidewalks. I treat lights/signs as appropriate for the given situation.

What's the problem?

Do you think you're actually convincing anybody to ride a bike doing what you're doing? Like bicycles are some new invention and you are bringing awareness about a new, previously unknown way to commute?

The main reasons people decide to ride a bike instead of drive - price of gas, help the environment / get outdoors or lose weight/exercise. More people get turned off thinking green because of shit like Critical Mass than those encouraged by it.

If you all put your collective man-hours together you could do something far more constructive. There's a group in Vancouver that collects old bikes people intend to throw out, fixes them and then uses those bicycles to promote bicycling. They offer free, scenic rides to people who don't normally bike (eg don't own a bike), run bicycle safety programs, loan people bikes to ride to work instead of driving - a sort of try before you buy thing and they donate bicycles to poor children to promote a culture of bicycling.

I applaud them. I'd like to run you over with a semi-truck because critical mass is designed to be confrontational. Pushing people around only works if you can intimidate them in some way - and nobody is scared of a bunch of pot smoking hippies. It just makes everyone mad.

These activists that promote bicycle awareness they don't ride in critical mass? How do you know for sure?

I like how you think the only way I "promote awareness" is through critical mass. It's just something that happens every month and I go when I don't have to work that day. I'm not forcing anybody to do anything more than sit on the side while I ride in the street.... and 3k other people. Funny how you think I generalize everything when you generalize critical mass as a group of hippies that smoke pot. In fact that represents a VERY small portion of the people that ride.

Don't be so ignorant.

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I ride 16.5 miles each way to work most days.

I stay off sidewalks. I treat lights/signs as appropriate for the given situation.

What's the problem?

do you live down by parker/highlands ranch?

fuck off I break tons of traffic laws on my bike (without affecting other motorists) and will beat most automobiles to the same destination.

I bike and try to minimize my presence's effects on motorists and home they will do the same for me. I think that bikers that ignore traffic laws are fucking retarded since bikers are always the loser in any collision. Also whenever there are alternatives to using high traffic roads, I use them. I would gladly accept more bike lanes or separate smaller roads for bikes on the side.

Yeah they really should create like bike paths that avoid high traffic roads. The only reason i dont ride to work is two insane sections of street just prone for accidents. My roomate got hit, he was fine but it was just luck that he was.

do you live down by parker/highlands ranch?
No, I decided not to live in a beige farm.

These activists that promote bicycle awareness they don't ride in critical mass? How do you know for sure?

I like how you think the only way I "promote awareness" is through critical mass. It's just something that happens every month and I go when I don't have to work that day. I'm not forcing anybody to do anything more than sit on the side while I ride in the street.... and 3k other people. Funny how you think I generalize everything when you generalize critical mass as a group of hippies that smoke pot. In fact that represents a VERY small portion of the people that ride.



Don't be so ignorant.

I like how you think people are black and white and good people can't do bad things and vice versa. Last time I spoonfeed you my point - IF critical mass is some attempt to save the world it is an epic failure.

What critical mass IS, as per the event slogan - "we're not blocking traffic, we ARE traffic" is some misguided attempt to "reclaim the streets" from cars. It is inherently confrontational and does more harm than good.

So all I'm saying is, don't pretend like you're doing the world any favours by riding in this event. This is just a way for bicyclists to retaliate against asshole drivers who want bicyclists off the road. It has nothign to do with saving the environment. And it collectively punishes all drivers and has even put the public in harm's way by preventing emergency services from assisting people in need. So basically participating in this event makes you a douchebag.

I'm doing my part by blocking the flow of traffic, forcing people to idle their cars and burn more deadly polar bear killing CO2.

Get a clue, it's for the environment.