What (gameplay-wise) is wrong with Legions?

I'm aware that this is a volatile topic, especially here, but I'm interested as to what everybody thinks.

As you all know, the Legions dev team is planning a live development model. If enough people are noticing the same problems or expressing the same preferences, it's very likely that the gameplay will shift in that direction. Currently more physics tweaks and some weapons tweaks are planned, along with a new map whose terrain will probably produce more Tribesish gameplay.

In the meantime, if we can get a comprehensive list of what problems with see with Legions' gameplay (such as DOX's post in the IA forums), there's a serious chance we'll be able to help the devs improve it where it needs it.

While most of us can admit that T:V was a half-baked, unsupported disaster, Legions will have constant support. Legions is in many ways our last chance of seeing a truly quality FPS+Z game come to fruition: the more FPS+Z games that come out and remain dismal failures, the more that the genre will be too toxic for any decent game developers to touch.

So let's hear it: where does Legions need improvement?

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noWhy not? Because this community is largely made up of arrogant, fucked-up pricks?

I suppose you do have a point.

Audio definitely needs improvement - it's impossible to tell how close people are to you, as there is no correlation between proximity of other player models and the audio level of their jets, footsteps, etc.

you're off to a great start

There's nothing to do, its boring.

Why not? Because this community is largely made up of arrogant, fucked-up pricks?

I suppose you do have a point.

I think mostly because you have jack shit to do with the dev team, so its fucking pointless. And DOX pretty much covered everything already, so the ball has been in GG's court for a while now. Why make a post here, when dox already did it in GG's beta forums?

its not t1 (or t2 classic)

fail

Audio definitely needs improvement - it's impossible to tell how close people are to you, as there is no correlation between proximity of other player models and the audio level of their jets, footsteps, etc.Definitely. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been fixed already to be honest...There's nothing to do, its boring.Would more players help? Different maps, maybe?

I think part of the problem will go away once the new map comes out and dedicated servers go up for some decent 16-player games, but if nothing else, Legions definitely gets stale after a while. Reminds me of constantly playing LT.

I just made this thread just now before I noticed this thread.
http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=544663

A couple of things I don't like...
- Feels like carrying weights when you fly up-hill. Just feels a little more horizontal than I'd like.
- Movement up-close is really jerky. Doesn't feel like you can lead your shots because people can move too sporratically in the air.
- Don't like how energy recharges so fast on the ground. Kinda decreases the amount of time people have to rest on the ground before you fly off again. Then off again with trying to shoot flies.

I think mostly because you have jack shit to do with the dev team, so its fucking pointless. And DOX pretty much covered everything already, so the ball has been in GG's court for a while now. Why make a post here, when dox already did it in GG's beta forums?Because DOX is one person with one person's opinions, any many people don't bother posting in the IA forums?

One person is still one person, no matter how valuable their feedback is.

Why not? Because this community is largely made up of arrogant, fucked-up pricks?

I suppose you do have a point.

Now you know why we don't care, not because we don't care about the games (actually we care enough to have attempted to try it out etc.) but because of this constant perception of us by GG fanbois and seemingly the devs (StephenZ).

With that perception of this community I couldn't care less for whatever happens, there's lots of good games out there these days.

Some of us have brought up good points there already, their 'live' development clearly hasn't really taken that much input at all.

Because DOX is one person with one person's opinions, any many people don't bother posting in the IA forums?

One person is still one person, no matter how valuable their feedback is.

You need to realize that this (GD) forum is the wrong place for "rational" discussion. Many people here haven't even played Tribes 1, let alone any of the other games. Try TT or another sub-forum.

Because DOX is one person with one person's opinions, any many people don't bother posting in the IA forums?

One person is still one person, no matter how valuable their feedback is.

He is also supported and put into words what a lot of people were thinking

instead of being a fan boy (or part of development) why dont you stop sucking cock and actually read what he said and understand it before fishing for more 'improvements' that the game needs.

Now you know why we don't care, not because we don't care about the games (actually we care enough to have attempted to try it out etc.) but because of this constant perception of us by GG fanbois and seemingly the devs (StephenZ).

With that perception of this community I couldn't care less for whatever happens, there's lots of good games out there these days.

Some of us have brought up good points there already, their 'live' development clearly hasn't really taken that much input at all.Actually, that perception of mine came largely from reading through a shitload of threads, but I suppose you can spin it however you want :rolleyes:

You need to realize that this (GD) forum is the wrong place for "rational" discussion. Many people here haven't even played Tribes 1, let alone any of the other games. Try TT or another sub-forum.But hostility is so much more entertaining.

Rampancy, you're not helping.

Actually, that perception of mine came largely from reading through a shitload of threads, but I suppose you can spin it however you want :rolleyes:

SO then I don't care for you, take your thread and GTFO. You clearly aren't going to value any of our opinions.

instead of being a fan boy (or part of development) why dont you stop sucking cock and actually read what he said and understand it before fishing for more 'improvements' that the game needs.Because you spent much of your childhood suckling your dad's cock.

But hostility is so much more entertaining.

Isn't that simply a self-fulfilling prophecy? You are complaining that we are arrogant fucked up pricks and yet this is your response?

With ethics like those, I'll be sure never to touch a GG product. Looks like you've won, grats.