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Joemomma5000 06-02-2008, 12:15 AM I keep hearing guardian. I hear it constantly and it saddens me.
Why you ask? Well I'm a Conq, and we apparently have nice dps but no burst and this is evident at least in the lowbie levels in my getting my balls pushed in by every ranger/guardian/barb/necro I run into.
Should I stick with my Conq? I'm lvl 11 now (Taintmaster - Deathwhisper), and I would like to stick to one char if possible because I am more of an evenings and weekends warrior. I want to reroll guard, but I know they will get hit with the nerf stick (as opposed to Conq's getting buffed) soon enough.
Or should I just make a ranger and pew pew nonstop.
What is everyone finding thus far?
PS: How do you successfully do combos? The tool tips are brutally generic and tell you basically nothing. I have to go to a third party website just to find out that my taunt actually does + damage. Do you guys constantly hit the arrows as fast as possible to string combos? Let me know what works for you guys!
Navarone 06-02-2008, 12:19 AM Yeah, I need a really basic tutorial for this game, I don't understand how anything works.
PessimiStick 06-02-2008, 12:47 AM AoC has a 1-deep move queue.
i.e.: If you're currently performing an action, you can hit something else and it will cast as soon as you're able to do so.
Slobax 06-02-2008, 01:03 AM so far i've found that leveling casters is pretty damn cheap compared to leveling melee (aka way faster and easier)
and rangers can go to hell as far as pvp goes - i'll be doing some quest killing some fucking panther, then i notice i'm about to die...i die..then see some ranger run off
Yawnfest 06-02-2008, 02:44 AM we've been leveling as Necro, Ranger, PoM, Guardian
Haven't had any use for the guardian yet. For PvE we pretty much just AoE shit down and usually myself (necro) just tanks them. Probably will change once we do legit instances though. We're only in mid 30s. Rangers are even more retarded strong than people think just b/c most play them like shit. If you actually use the traps and full potential of all their CC it is beyond disgusting. Guardian just hasn't fit in for us in pvp. Yes, there's the one knock down CC he has but besides that it is crappy DPS and anyone smart ignores him. Since like 70% of people have a melee class most of pvp for us involves a bunch of kiting and the guardian just runs around whacking people but doing very little.
PoM is strong for the heals. Their AOE knockdown sucks though b/c it has the most obvious graphic and casts too long. Anyone who isn't a dumbass will avoid it. Their fear is alright. Right now though a Tempest does much better damage, has better CC and does the same heals. Tempests are fucking broken. If anything needs some nerfing its tempests and rangers.
I really can barely tell the difference between the soldier classes. They're all annoying b/c of the mass hp's. Like right now our guardian has 2.5x times the hp as the rest of us. Soldiers do not make anyone fear them in pvp. When I see one the only question on my mind is will he die or will he escape b/c of his metric ton of hp's and running.
I hear later that Conq's have great utility for pve and do well in pvp b/c they're damage is actually pretty good and they provide some CC abilities. But no experience with them.
Calder 06-02-2008, 03:15 AM If you want to be good at PVP, roll a caster.
Group PVP is currently retarded as a melee. It is near impossible to get off combos and assist on targets that jump and sprint around unless they're stunned.
Guardians can burst a lot of damage every 45 seconds w/ Stagger
Conquerors are retardedly OP in group PVP because they proc battle res on their teammates. We were doing a 6v6 today and it was 5 of us vs. 2 of them, and all of the sudden 3 that were dead pop up and get healed to full before we can hit them. You pretty much HAVE to target conqs first (since it procs when teammates take damage, not them)
TseTse 06-02-2008, 07:18 AM Barbarians are raping face in pvp at higher levels.
You want to think in terms of group pvp. Combos rely on you managing your queue well. I play a caster, so i imagine that just takes a little practice. Likewise, get used to keeping a keen eye on the defensive arrows on your target so that you can become quick at adjusting your actions (and even planning ahead).
Conqs are strong in team pvp, for sure.
I play a Tempest of Set which is extremely OP in both solo and group stuff. I keep wondering about more serious pvp grouping and i have concluded that making a core out of 2 ToS is essential. Perhaps:
- ToS
- ToS
- Conq
- Barbarian
- Shaman
- PoM
That team would be hard to kill, if played right. :brows:
Homerpf 06-02-2008, 09:45 AM He's right about the guardian, they are damn near impossible to kill and can do some serious damage as well.
But I wouldn't change your class, like Tse said you get furious resurrection which is one of my favorite things in PvP so far.
GraphiX 06-02-2008, 01:52 PM Barbarians are raping face in pvp at higher levels.
You want to think in terms of group pvp. Combos rely on you managing your queue well. I play a caster, so i imagine that just takes a little practice. Likewise, get used to keeping a keen eye on the defensive arrows on your target so that you can become quick at adjusting your actions (and even planning ahead).
Conqs are strong in team pvp, for sure.
I play a Tempest of Set which is extremely OP in both solo and group stuff. I keep wondering about more serious pvp grouping and i have concluded that making a core out of 2 ToS is essential. Perhaps:
- ToS
- ToS
- Conq
- Barbarian
- Shaman
- PoM
That team would be hard to kill, if played right. :brows:
Thunder + Lightning spec ToS would be insane.
xgalaxy 06-02-2008, 05:56 PM The priests can't rez in combat. Conquerors get the only battle rez in the game. That makes him a very important class in both pve and pvp.
-=TTC=-Serpreme 06-02-2008, 06:25 PM hey graphix, whos that girl?
d0ggy 06-02-2008, 06:55 PM hey graphix, whos that girl?
Isebella from cam4
Navarone 06-04-2008, 12:23 AM I'm playing a HoX right now, and holy shit, leveling is slow. Any tips? I'm squishy as hell.
Calder 06-04-2008, 01:04 AM Well Guardians can burst a shitload of damage with overreach at higher levels. I'm sure it will be nerfed though, because I've 1-shot my fair share of ~75 players (at level 70) with it :o
Bridude 06-04-2008, 10:02 AM I find it a bit strange I haven't heard much about Assasins at all. They any good in PvP?
Slobax 06-04-2008, 10:28 AM My first characters were a guardian and assassin that i took to like 15 (not far i know, but enough to know i didn't like them)
Guardian gets the most boring combos ever. And assassin just feels plain gimp.
Leveling a Barbarian now and loving it. It's what assassin should have been like. It's basically a fury warrior who can stealth.
Falhawk 06-04-2008, 11:13 AM assassins suck overall
I'm gonna make a ToS, at least before they get nerfed.
arcadus 06-04-2008, 02:15 PM yeah conqs are pretty badass
furious inspiration has saved my groups ass more than a few times running through sanctum... like, our only healer and the other conq we had died, and in a few seconds, BAM they're up in the fight again.
wtt lvl 50 barb for lvl 50 guardian. please send tell.
TseTse 06-04-2008, 03:15 PM assassins suck overall
I'm gonna make a ToS, at least before they get nerfed.
They already were heavily nerfed after the first week.
And they are still OP. :D
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