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JustinCase 05-07-2008, 05:47 PM druid is the only other class I've leveled to 70 aside from a mage, I know I had less than 3 days played when I got to 70 and most of that time was when I was using the character to just bank stuff for my main
once you hit 50 and get mangle, it's pretty much just hit stuff 4 or 5 times and its dead
that being said, once you get to 70 it's kinda boring, feral gear isn't the most available gear in the game, especially for tanking, it's mostly badge and tier stuff
The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Justincase) is what I've been messing around with for the past few weeks, just doing a buncha kara runs, I think it has pretty decent gear though
Sojourn 05-07-2008, 08:42 PM You could also go Feral Druid for easy levelling with very little gear dependency. Then when you hit 70 you can decide between being an overpowered pvp healer, a tank or a caster.
Woohoo! Go druid healing!
I've found leveling a druid incredibly slow up until level 30..
When I hit level 30 I had about 1.5 days played on my druid.. and it wasn't a matter of I didn't know what I was doing .. I knew what zones to hit when, I knew where to go to do the quests, etc etc..
The problem I came across was up until level 30 you have no place to do point dumps except into a bleed that does its dmg over 18 seconds.. After 30 you finally get a "evis" type of skill/spell (can't recall the name) then it speeds up..
Druid levelling until 20 is weird, but once you get cat form it's a breeze. I also wouldn't recommend rolling a hunter. They're boring, they're overpopulated and they all wind up using the same gear. It's like seeing all Mages with the same S1/S2 staff model.
samUwell 05-07-2008, 11:11 PM Shaman and druid have a little more leeway due to flexibility. I played a shaman up to lvl 35 and I had fun, but I'd have to simply go by the 60+ shamans in terms of bad itemization (which sucks because I was looking at a shaman next). what does bad itemization mean?
i just got my enh shammy to 60 so this got me concerned.
Calder 05-07-2008, 11:16 PM Look who posted it.
Don't worry.
Ben Reed 05-08-2008, 03:03 AM Warrior leveling was a nightmare back in the day, but a lot of the associated horrors have been really toned down since they made a lot of elite mobs non-elite. You do have to be a lot more careful about coming prepared with consumables and cooldowns ready if necessary, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.
The key thing with Warrior leveling is that since you have no CC and very limited ability to escape from bad pulls, green quests and green mobs are absolutely essential. Your hit and crit are garbage before you reach the late 50's/early 60's and start getting "real" gear, so missed/glancing attacks against yellow mobs are a much huger deal than classes that can Gouge, Frost Nova, etc. to avoid damage easily. You need to focus on quests associated with mobs below your level, where glancing blows are off the table and you can easily handle accidental adds without the use of oh-shit buttons and potions.
If you're at a point where you have to choose finishing a zone whose quests are turning green versus a new zone full of yellow quests, DEFINITELY clean up the green zone first. Having two levels up on the mobs you're grinding makes a HUGE difference in downtime AND safety for a leveling Warrior.
I also agree that Warriors are much easier to level if you do so after making a main of a different class with a decent gold stash. Buying things like greens and charms for the level 40 weapon quest (which you can complete at level 30, for a 2-hander that will last you well into your 50's) will smooth out a lot of the bumps associated with the grind.
The Pumpkin King 05-08-2008, 03:36 AM If you roll on Onyxia right now, you'll find that leveling as horde is a breeze. There are almost NO alliance. I have seen only 4 alliance players total and I am level 34. Only 2 of them even bothered me. I'm leveling in stranglethorn right now and I still haven't really run into any alliance. It's a leveling dream.
Not to mention most of the people playing there are transfered characters. This means that nobody is farming the low level mats like copper ore and stuff like that. If you go gathering you can make a killing. I was selling 20 stacks of copper bars for 5-7 g a piece. I'm only level 34 and I already have 200 g from doing mining and herbalism, but I haven't even sold any of my herbs yet. I'm saving them because I might go Alchemy.
On the downside, all the lowbie weapons cost a fortune. Same with armor. Best to find it yourself or keep an eye on the AH and try to score cheap deals when they come.
Yes, warriors are very gear dependent. YOU NEED A GOOD WEAPON. Armor with Stamina on it helps huge too. Without gear it can be difficult to even kill yellows at your level. With great gear you can kill monsters from 4 to even 6 levels higher than you with pots.
I have leveled a shaman and a rogue before, and the warrior is BY FAR the most difficult. I die a lot because I can't crowd control very well. All you can do is use your fear, or hamstring and run. Buy lots of pots, that will help a lot.
I have noticed that warriors are pretty fun in PvP. Shamans are pretty kick ass in PVP in my opinion in the lower levels. I had no problem smashing people's heads in from levels 30-50 as a shaman with an enchanted bonebiter or blue 2 hander. Dual wielding is also pretty nice as either class.
I'm not sure if any of this helped, just felt like writing...
Joemomma5000 05-08-2008, 06:58 AM what does bad itemization mean?
i just got my enh shammy to 60 so this got me concerned.
Ok this is the easiest question to answer.
2x Fist of Reckoning : Fist of Reckoning - Items - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31139)
2x Crusader : Enchant Weapon - Crusader - Spells - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20034)
Hello 70.
It's what I used, it's the easiest, fastest and greatest way to level enh, and it went amazingly fast.
Just realize that you will completely explode on the threatmeters and ppl might hate you.
Surge 05-08-2008, 08:04 AM if you want to play melee roll a rogue or warrior
enh shaman, feral druid, ret pally, etc are all fun at times, but the pure melee classes are the most fun and viable, especially in arena
Shaman itemization is obviously horrible. :rolleyes: Every time we do an instance without a shaman all we get is shaman drops.
Falhawk 05-08-2008, 08:35 AM At least a warrior can get into instances with any of 3 pve specs, most classes dont have nearly as much choice.
uh
I mean I don't PUG but if I did...as a fury warrior...I'd have a hard time finding groups.
I plan to respec to arms soon to do more pvp/arena (probably when S4 comes out) and that won't endear me to 5man's either.
ferret 05-08-2008, 09:47 AM Warriors are probably the most gear dependent class in the game while levelling. They're much easier as 2nd characters when you've got cash, in my opinion.
I've dumped about 250g on my warrior....and if my weapons weren't at my level it definately affected my abilities.
As a warrior I see tons of fury and arms specs complaining about getting into pugs, fact is if you are pure dps they want cc too. However you will not have a problem at all as prot. So basically if you want to competitively PVP and participate in PVE look at alot of respecs.
DistortedRiff 05-08-2008, 10:54 AM what does bad itemization mean?
i just got my enh shammy to 60 so this got me concerned.
It really doesn't matter while leveling, but endgame you'll end up wearing either a lot of hunter gear (which has undesirable stats like int/agility) or a lot of leather (with a load of agility). The agi is nice to a point for crit, but since it doesn't add AP you get shafted a lot of the time.
Wrathchild 05-08-2008, 10:56 AM Ended up going with a troll hunter, since I have no other characters on the server to fund me. It's going incredibly quick, and it does seem like the game is easier, or maybe it's just because I've done the hoard newbie zones like 20 times already.
You'll hate your hunter at 70.
Wrathchild 05-08-2008, 11:08 AM I'll probably never make it to 70, haven't yet with any character :)
JustinCase 05-08-2008, 12:10 PM the game sucks until 70
even then it still kinda sucks
Senty 05-08-2008, 12:41 PM Reactivated over the weekend and started a new hunter. I had a 34 Hunter already but have been gone for so many years I needed to relearn how to play him.
24 right now and I'd recomend it for the PvP instances. It's a great all-round class, good on offense and defense. Having a constant overview of the battle with track you can tell exactly where you're needed. Granted I get my ass kicked by most of the 29s I meet as a mere 24 but as long as I have high level teamates to keep them busy I can churn out enough damage to be in the top kill rankings.
Personally I can't wait till I'm 26-29 and can actually take these people on.
Feannag 05-08-2008, 12:42 PM I've dumped about 250g on my warrior....and if my weapons weren't at my level it definately affected my abilities.
As a warrior I see tons of fury and arms specs complaining about getting into pugs, fact is if you are pure dps they want cc too. However you will not have a problem at all as prot. So basically if you want to competitively PVP and participate in PVE look at alot of respecs.
Honestly if you are not 70 and/or not doing heroics it shouldn't be that hard for a non-Prot warrior to tank. Unless you have healers who are lazy and prefer their warrior tanks in Prot so they take less damage by spec and therefor don't need to be watched/healed as much.
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