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obligatory Wow Web Stats (http://wowwebstats.com/o3ct3xajtm66g?s=5386-6400)

^ Latest (first) Magtheridon kill

Now that VR has been nerfed so that VRAlarm and other mods don't work, should we go for Lurker?

I don't think that DPS can beat the VR enrage timer. A boss without an enrage would be your best bet, in my opinion.

Yikes.

Please tell me you're one of the tanks or healers.

VR was fixed back iirc

that being said, 6k raid dps is very low

I'm bored so I'm going to give some advice to your mages

Romy
-horrible spec, if she's going to spam frost bolt, then spec 10/0/51
-mc trinket lol?
-horrible, horrible, horrible gems
-wtf is in her pants, is that from zg?
-80 = 11% miss on the kill, that's very bad

Amany
-Spec is a little better, 2/48/11 is still the top dps build though
-way too many +8 hit gems, mainly because the badge gear / 5 man gear is horribly itemized, there are better options to get your hit up and gem for dmg and crit

In PvP/Kara gear, we basically did all of SSC in 1 week (leo took us a third night) and we haven't really bothered with vash yet. TK we initially went in and downed VR, and wiped 3-4 times to A'lar. After we did SSC, we went back and 2 shotted A'lar basically and did solarian too in a 2 shot.

After the patch, we did Mag. I dunno, we're not hardcore enough to really care.

For SSC, first night, we skipped Hydross (didn't get the gear crafted in time)
We did Lurker and wiped to Morogrim twice and called it. Night 2, we did Hydross, Morogrim, and Fathomlord I think. Then we did Leo on night 3 after a couple of wipes.

We finished ZA before we really started any of it I believe. Did you do gruuls yet too?

Just giving you a measuring stick to go by in terms of progression.

Ok, is it me or are there no spriests?

Eliena - how does he/she not use steady shot? 20 steady shots vs 300+ auto shots as a BM hunter? Correct that fast. Never use serpent sting either, ever. Same for Mikk. If they're running OOM, they need to pot up early, use oils, use mageblood pots. You really need an spriest for mana regen too.

By the way, if your guild can't kill Lurker in 3 attempts or less, find a new guild.

Ok, is it me or are there no spriests?

Eliena - how does he/she not use steady shot? 20 steady shots vs 300+ auto shots as a BM hunter? Correct that fast. Never use serpent sting either, ever. Same for Mikk. If they're running OOM, they need to pot up early, use oils, use mageblood pots. You really need an spriest for mana regen too.

Haha, that's awesome. I didn't actually bother to investigate anyone's breakdowns, just the master chart let me know that no one in that guild can play their character correctly.

That hunter has more than twice the damage from using serpent sting than from using steady shot dude. The pet BITE, which has a 10s cooldown, has 37 hits, to Steady shots 20.

Say no to spirit bond too.

That hunter has more than twice the damage from using serpent sting than from using steady shot dude. The pet BITE, which has a 10s cooldown, has 37 hits, to Steady shots 20.

Say no to spirit bond too.
While that shot breakdown is rofltastic in the extreme, Spirit Bond isn't really a big deal. My wife's Hunter still has it, even. It's filler between that and Mend, and we are resto shaman heavy, so there's more than enough jesus beams to go around.

Yikes.

Please tell me you're one of the tanks or healers.

I'm the resto shaman.

My "main" is a 850 dps shadow priest, but we needed the healers since some of our druids haven't yet learned that it's possible to hop out of tree once in awhile.

edit: as for Romy, I've tried arguing with him about spec, he just doesn't listen.

We have done Gruul, and got VR down to 8% before the patch screwed it up.

I'm the resto shaman.

My "main" is a 1k dps shadow priest, but we needed the healers since some of our druids haven't yet learned that it's possible to hop out of tree once in awhile.Phew.

I mean, long story short, every DPSer in that parse is incompetent.

Gigantic holes in gear and/or spec and/or play from everyone.

Yea, I run mend pet. I find occasionally, it's not so bad for getting rid of a debuff. But yea, it's pretty negligible either way. Problem is I actually see quite a bit of hunters not get something else in favor of spirit bond, since they think it's easymode health.

I'm the resto shaman.

My "main" is a 850 dps shadow priest, but we needed the healers since some of our druids haven't yet learned that it's possible to hop out of tree once in awhile.

edit: as for Romy, I've tried arguing with him about spec, he just doesn't listen.

We have done Gruul, and got VR down to 8% before the patch screwed it up.

...Your shadow priest will/should better serve that raid than will your sham. You have 8 healers and can get by with 7 especially if your priest doesn't pull aggro and regens a bunch of them, because I'm assuming they're pretty crappily geared. Millefailte died early or something? His heals are pretty weak when they lose to a warrior.

While that shot breakdown is rofltastic in the extreme, Spirit Bond isn't really a big deal. My wife's Hunter still has it, even. It's filler between that and Mend, and we are resto shaman heavy, so there's more than enough jesus beams to go around.

The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Bronzebeard&n=Elieana)

His/her spec, as I suspected, is completely awful.

Tell him/her to go with:
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cxbR0gxRquVoVVbRV )

You can't not have mortal shots. You certainly can't not have go for the throat as a BM hunter.

Seriously, he has no focused fire, no go for the throat, no mortal shots, and has savage strikes over humanoid/beast slaying too. Wtf?

Eventually, bosses will get to where you can't just knock them over like Gruul and 2.4 Mag, they require some type of raid synergy and people knowing how to spec and use max dps rotations

fix the problems or ignore them and wipe a lot

...Your shadow priest will/should better serve that raid than will your sham. You have 8 healers and can get by with 7 especially if your priest doesn't pull aggro and regens a bunch of them, because I'm assuming they're pretty crappily geared. Millefailte died early or something? His heals are pretty weak when they lose to a warrior.

I don't know how or why, because I was on the other side of the room, but he kept getting cleaved.

I don't know how or why, because I was on the other side of the room, but he kept getting cleaved.

Because he's mentally retarded/completely terrible.

Getting cleaved as a healer indicates a complete lack of anything resembling video game acumen.

Because he's mentally retarded/completely terrible.

Getting cleaved as a healer indicates a complete lack of anything resembling video game acumen.

:rofl: