[XP] Is there a non-hack way to...

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carouselambra
03-27-2008, 12:58 PM
...get the fucking broadband connection to start up right away when I log on? When I configured it, it just put an icon on the desktop, which I'm supposed to click. Yaay, how sophisticated. I didn't expect much from putting the icon in the Startup folder, and lo: it patiently waits while my antivirus fails to update, msn fails to connect etc. Once every app that needs to go online returns an error, it connects.

So my question is: is there some simple solution to this, or do I have to go digging in the XP Tips & Tricks thread?

CED/Esmeralda
03-27-2008, 04:43 PM
You should be able to enable this from Control Panel/Network Connections; no hack is needed...
Hell, just call up your ISP tech support and they can walk you through this easily and quickly if you can't do from Network Connections..

carouselambra
03-27-2008, 05:39 PM
If you mean the auto dial options, it doesn't help. It connects only if I fire up IE.

If that's not what you mean, but rather you mean the "Configure home network etc" wizard, that didn't help either.

If you don't mean any of those, then what do you mean? :)

[MD5]Hash
03-27-2008, 06:00 PM
Or you could just skip the dial up and go for an actual always-on connection like DSL or cable.

CED/Esmeralda
03-27-2008, 07:18 PM
Hash;12975099']Or you could just skip the dial up and go for an actual always-on connection like DSL or cable.
;) Oh he has dial-up; duh, I assumed broadband...

Goto start/run, type in msconfig, select 'start' tab, and disable(uncheck) your AV and MSN and whatever that requires internet connection BUT then you have to manually start them after connected...

Vlasic
03-27-2008, 07:25 PM
the OP says broadband.

You need to tell us more about your fucking connection. If it's PPPoE, get a router.

-K-Crypt
03-27-2008, 07:47 PM
It's obvious you are setting something up wrong if you have broadband.

1. What provider are you using?
2. What model of modem do you have?
3. Are you plugging it in using ethernet cable or usb?

carouselambra
03-28-2008, 02:51 PM
1. Provider is T-Com (or T-Whatever)
2. Modem is a D-Link DSL-360R (ver. C3) ADSL2+
3. Ethernet cable
4. It is PPPoE

-K-Crypt
03-28-2008, 03:25 PM
They should have given you a cd, or some sort of instructions.
DSL und Fernsehen von T-Home (http://www.t-home.de/index.html) try looking on there for it.

If there is a website in english I would be glad to find it for you.

OtakuMark
03-28-2008, 11:07 PM
Disable, and then delete the dial-up/ppoe connection in your network connections folder

You just want Local Area Connection 1 to be 'Connected' and 'Enabled', your modem/router should handle the login/connection to be always on anyway and you're more than likely re-loggin in when you do that malarky.

iNVAR
03-29-2008, 09:26 AM
^-- not true. if he's able to do a pppoe login through the dialup folder, chances are he doesn't have a router. he has a dsl modem (bridge) which doesn't do ANY sort of logging in for him at all.

carouselambra
03-29-2008, 05:21 PM
They should have given you a cd, or some sort of instructions.
DSL und Fernsehen von T-Home (http://www.t-home.de/index.html) try looking on there for it.

If there is a website in english I would be glad to find it for you.

Oh yeah, they gave me a CD alright. And then when it didn't fucking work, I called them, and they told me that it's outdated and I should add a connection manually. So I did, and then they gave me instructions:

Guy: I'm showing your connection just came alive.
Me: Awesome.
Guy: So there should be an icon to the connection on your desktop.
Me: Yeah, I see it.
Guy: Well, you're going to have to double-click it at every logon.
Me: You seriously have got to be fucking kidding me.
Guy: Excuse me?
Me: I love double-clicking.

(may not be entirely factual)

So yeah, the official idea is: double-click the icon every fucking time you log on. They don't even tell you how to disable credential checking, so really the idea is that you'll double-click, then click OK and then you have interwebs. This is very modern, and I endorse it, but it's just not going to happen.

iNVAR
03-29-2008, 05:46 PM
Configure PPPoE for in Windows XP to auto connect on boot (http://www.webcamsoft.com/en/faq/pppoe.html)

carouselambra
03-29-2008, 07:00 PM
aaah, a shortcut in startup for all users. very clever indeed.

that seems to have worked. msn now just takes a couple seconds longer to log on, but it does eventually.

thanks everyone, you've been a wonderful audience, have a good evening, you can buy CD's in the entrance hall.


edit: fucking god damnit, I restarted and it's the same shit. antivirus loads, Spybot loads and tries to update (I don't know if it succeeds or not) and once everything settles, connection comes alive. The only improvement is that MSN now waits for the connection. This is still some major league bullshit.

CED/Esmeralda
03-29-2008, 10:51 PM
What Anti-Virus software are you using?? Is it Symantec/Norton System Works/Tools(GoBack a.k.a. GoCrap??) and what Sypbot?? Need ALL & exact & specific software that you are using that trys to load when booting up...

You need to look at your AV and Spybot carefully and find and un-tic the boxes that say open or start on start/boot-up; if they don't give you these options then IMO its software that you do not need and you need an alternative!!

I am with iNVAR and Vlasic, you peeps need to give us full hardware specs, what specific OS, recent software & hardware install/update history and software/hardware involved with problem from the OP and quit fooking around like we are mind readers of what you do or don't have...

Vlasic
03-30-2008, 03:59 PM
spend the 30 bucks and pick up a router that does PPPoE. Hell I think all of them do this. You have to be insane to direct connect your PC to the internet anyway.

iNVAR
03-30-2008, 04:08 PM
i agree with the pickle man.

carouselambra
03-30-2008, 06:15 PM
CED/Esmeralda: originally, I couldn't concieve a scenario in which my CPU had any effect whatsoever on when exactly winxp decides to open the intertube valve. Since the creation of this thread, I'm beginning to think that this shit is directly related not only to my BIOS version number, but also the physical positioning of my PC in the room.

Don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate all your help, it's just that it's blowing my fucking mind. I thought there was a tickbox somewhere that I missed, maybe I needed to set something to true in an .ini, stuff like that. Now it turns out full hardware specs are needed and I might have to purchase an extra router, even though there is (and for the foreseeable future there will be) only one computer connecting to the Net.

If plugging a single computer into a router is standard practice, I apologize. As I said, I made this thread expecting some "lol winxp noob" tomfoolery, followed by some obscure solution. If there was one thing I didn't expect, it was the radical reformation of my interweb connectivity knowledge. I also didn't expect the Spanish inquisition. So that's two things I didn't expect: the spanish inquisition, the radical reformation of... three things I didn't expect:

anyway, it's really only avast and spybot s&d I'm worried about. specifically, I'm worried their automatic databse update will fail, because there is no connection when they start. if you can confirm that this is not an issue, the whole ordeal just becomes an inconvenience, a delay introduced for no reason. which, although not positive, is a hell of a lot more desirable than trojans marching in as though invited, because spybot has failed every database update in the last 3 months

iNVAR
03-30-2008, 06:22 PM
frankly, i'm surprised your isp gave you a dsl modem (bridge, whatever) that doesn't do routing and automatically connects you via pppoe. even verizon gave me one.

carouselambra
03-30-2008, 07:02 PM
whoop-de-doo, looks like the DSL-360R series is the ghetto cousin of the DSL-360T series. no specs anywhere, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the culprit

edit: T-Fuckers screwed me over, the 360R apparently is a nonexistent hardware, a hideous mutation of the 360T. no firmware updates, no web configuration, no anything. I'm surprised it connected at all. more as the story unfolds.

edit2: 192.168.1.1 doesn't load, what a fucking surprise

edit3: okay, looks like there are h4x0rz out there disseminating programs which allow you to actually adjust the settings on the router, seeing they were not removed, only hidden. if that doesn't work, a "recommend a good router" thread shall be created on the smouldering wreckage of this one