"Skill-testing question required for Canadian residents."

-raven-
02-28-2008, 10:26 AM
What the **** does that mean?

I saw this on a Tim Horton's coffee cup that had instant-win things written under the rim.

Gow
02-28-2008, 10:30 AM
The combined effect of Sections 197 to 206 of the Canadian Criminal Code bans for-profit gaming or betting, with exceptions made for provincial lotteries, licensed casinos, and charity events. Many stores, radio stations, and other groups still wish to hold contests to encourage more purchases or increase consumer interest. A classic example is Tim Hortons' Roll up the Rim to Win, a contest that offers a chance to win with every cup of coffee purchased, with prizes ranging from doughnuts to vehicles. These organizations take advantage of the fact that the law does allow prizes to be given for games of skill, or mixed games of skill and chance. In order to make the chance-based contests legal, such games generally have mathematical skill-testing questions incorporated.

The most common form that these questions take is as an arithmetic exercise. A court decision ruled that these must contain at least three numbers to actually be skill testing; for example, a common question might be "(2 4) + (10 3)" (Answer: 38). Enforcement of these rules is not very stringent, and especially for small prizes, the player may not be required to answer the skill-testing question to claim a prize. Anecdotally, getting the answer wrong is also often not an obstacle to claiming a prize. For contests held in the United States or other countries that are open to Canadians, the questions must also be asked of any Canadian winner.

The same section of law prohibits receiving consideration in exchange for playing the games, resulting in a related peculiarity of Canadian contests: the "free entry alternative", which is usually telegraphed by the fine print "No purchase necessary". Generally this means that it is possible to enter the contest for free by, for example, writing a letter to the entity sponsoring the contest and requesting a game piece or entry form.

Bodom
02-28-2008, 10:51 AM
thats hilarious

Tangy Zizzle
02-28-2008, 11:28 AM
thats hilarious
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g0ds gReeN
02-28-2008, 12:42 PM
wow

Obibun
02-28-2008, 12:46 PM
Yeah, when someone talks about it and you look at it from a different perspective.. it's pretty ****ed.

But everyone here is just so used to seeing it that it's second nature. No one bothers asking why it exists, it just does.

Fate
02-28-2008, 12:49 PM
thats hilarious

Want to know what's even more hilarious, getting taxed on winnings.

An American wins a lottery, gives ~40% to the government. A Canadian wins the lottery, keeps it all.

Got Haggis?
02-28-2008, 01:09 PM
i'm pretty sure canadians are taxed more than united statians (new word lol)

-raven-
02-28-2008, 01:15 PM
By the way, this under the rim thing is retarded. It's a ***** to try to roll the rim of the coffee cup up. That should be enough of a skills test right there.

Viracocha
02-28-2008, 01:19 PM
i'm pretty sure canadians are taxed more than united statians (new word lol)

Depends what province you live in.
LOL PROVINCE

[MD5]Hash
02-28-2008, 01:25 PM
How is this any different than companies in the US having to provide free game pieces, they only do it because to force a purchase is essentially a gambling operation, unless you can receive free game pieces by writing to the company.

This thread fails to provide anything worth reading.

cyclozine
02-28-2008, 01:27 PM
games of pure chance are forbidden under canadian law

Zlex
02-28-2008, 01:52 PM
By the way, this under the rim thing is retarded. It's a ***** to try to roll the rim of the coffee cup up. That should be enough of a skills test right there.

http://www.rimroller.com/images/video.gif

The rim roller.

-raven-
02-28-2008, 01:57 PM
http://www.rimroller.com/images/video.gif

The rim roller.

are you for real

Mine says I won a free coffee, but I'm not sure I want to keep trash around until the next time I want one

verve
02-28-2008, 02:05 PM
By the way, this under the rim thing is retarded. It's a ***** to try to roll the rim of the coffee cup up. That should be enough of a skills test right there.

Use your teeth?

Zlex
02-28-2008, 02:45 PM
are you for real

Mine says I won a free coffee, but I'm not sure I want to keep trash around until the next time I want one

For realz. Friend of mine had one on her keychain. For 5 minutes I was like wtf. ( Rimroller: the contest cup unroller! (http://www.rimroller.com/) )

You can just rip off the little rim part and keep it in your wallet.

-raven-
02-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Use your teeth?

Just tried, doesn't work and just ends up ripping the rim

Tribalbob
02-28-2008, 02:48 PM
yeah, 7-11 had rim-roll contest pieces once.

it was gay.

Anguish
02-28-2008, 03:05 PM
Also note that if the contest is not printed in French as well as English then Quebec is not eligible for the contest.

turdburgler
02-28-2008, 03:19 PM
Crush the cup in half and roll it, it's not hard at all.