ferret's weekly progression thread

Told you to roll with us. :) You could at least be a Friend of STK and slowly earn a raid spot.

Good point, and I'd never regret rolling with TW peeps. The problem is I have friends and my brother on Uther, TribalWar peeps on Onyxia, and work friends on Spinebreaker. I ticks me off I have to choose.

One of the guys I work with has 5 level 70's, another has 3, and the other 4, plus 2 other guys who have a 70. I have a guaranteed spot in the #1 raiding guild on Spinebreaker, and if I rolled Onyxia I'm sure that things would be going just as well there.

While I like playing with my friends 2 are casual players, including my brother. So they're more or less like, doo dup dee do, let me put points in here cus it looks really pretty when I cast it! I try to tell them about spec's and the right way to play but they're not interested. Both the TW and co workers are hardcore players which matches my playstyle.

Good point, and I'd never regret rolling with TW peeps. The problem is I have friends and my brother on Uther, TribalWar peeps on Onyxia, and work friends on Spinebreaker. I ticks me off I have to choose.

One of the guys I work with has 5 level 70's, another has 3, and the other 4, plus 2 other guys who have a 70. I have a guaranteed spot in the #1 raiding guild on Spinebreaker, and if I rolled Onyxia I'm sure that things would be going just as well there.

While I like playing with my friends 2 are casual players, including my brother. So they're more or less like, doo dup dee do, let me put points in here cus it looks really pretty when I cast it! I try to tell them about spec's and the right way to play but they're not interested. Both the TW and co workers are hardcore players which matches my playstyle.

If you really look at this game ferret, it's all about the 25 man action. I LAN with B-Zotch and Shallah every weekend. We still don't really "play WoW together." It's just not a game made to be played "together."

Consider if you can do a BG with 2 of your friends. 3 of you, you still might end up losing. Unless one's a healer, one's a melee, one's a caster, your BG experience will still probably suck. In arena, it's the same. You can't really play with your friends unless you all went in agreeing to roll a powerful arena comp. So, then, what does it come down to? Chilling IRL, talking about the game, raiding together (which is the only true form of playing together).

But if you're new, and your friends are ALL playing for a while in a guild, you're shunned from participating in raids. You lack gear, experience, and more importantly, any form of credibility.

So, when I made this guild, a lot of TW folks (quit before, never really raided, never been part of a real guild) took the opportunity to try and raid together. Last night, we started our first Vash attempts, and I feel like the next time we try, we got this. Learning all of SSC in 2-3 weeks is rather impressive, though not legendary by any means.

Still, in this guild, at least you'll get the opportunity to PLAY, and play with people whom you've at least been acquainted with for at least a decade. Being on the same server as your friend may be cool, and somewhat "comforting" but that's really all it is. Unless he leads the guild, you end up getting his "I'm not raiding right now" time.

i play mug'thol alliance with a group of friends and pretty much what adren said is true. some of us want to log on and do whatever, some want a mix of pvp and pve, some want hardcore pvp with arena teams. we're in the middle of forming our own guild that really won't do much but run kara and heroics for badge gear. outside of pve, we can't really focus on serious arena play because what we all chose to play can't form one of the top comps.

we all used to play at the same time before, too. but with people already being 60 (at the time) before others, some being in top guilds, others not, etc it became hard to do shit as a group because each others guilds did their own raids and their own pvp groups, the ones not "in" with each respective guild got shafted. now we all hit 70 around the same time and are making our own guild. what happens with it i don't know, we haven't even zoned into kara yet, but whatever.

i play mug'thol alliance with a group of friends and pretty much what adren said is true. some of us want to log on and do whatever, some want a mix of pvp and pve, some want hardcore pvp with arena teams. we're in the middle of forming our own guild that really won't do much but run kara and heroics for badge gear. outside of pve, we can't really focus on serious arena play because what we all chose to play can't form one of the top comps.


Why do you need a top comp to play arena? Thats my biggest problem with wow, if people cant make a cookie cutter build they just dont try and its retarded. I think unorthodox groups are more fun and way more prone to getting you some props. You can make arena teams with good synergy if you take some time to understand what you are gonna be doing and how you can compliment your team

Who gives a shit about arena props dude, seriously.

I hit 1900 last week and I'm bored already. I literally only log on to raid now. I enjoy raiding with the TW folks. They're all assholes, and we do stupid shit that wastes time, like wiping on trash. But damn can we 1-2 shot bosses on our first attempts.

I only really raid and do dailies now. Unless they do 10-25 man arenas, I don't really care anymore. Playing at 1900s is far more boring than the 1600s. At least there, we don't only see the same groups over and over.

I need a new PvP game for my own tastes - city building, city destruction, pvp penalties, with a side of PvE. :)

notice i said serious arena play, not lets just go in for 10 games to get whatever points possible

there is top comps for each bracket for a reason. usually the comps with the least counters, or ones that counter certain often-played teams are the ones you run into the most. what's fun in hitting the "mark" in 2's where you run into nothing but druid/lock, druid/war, spriest/rogue? same thing for the other brackets

to tony not adren btw, you quick ninja poster fag :o

notice i said serious arena play, not lets just go in for 10 games to get whatever points possible

there is top comps for each bracket for a reason. usually the comps with the least counters, or ones that counter certain often-played teams are the ones you run into the most. what's fun in hitting the "mark" in 2's where you run into nothing but druid/lock, druid/war, spriest/rogue? same thing for the other brackets

to tony not adren btw, you quick ninja poster fag :o

Yea, I can't get into serious arena play either. I just get bored with it too fast. I think the main problem for me is that there's nothing to 'attain' or 'deny'. I can't grief people in WoW, steal their shit, or burn their cities down.

Who gives a shit about arena props dude, seriously.

I hit 1900 last week and I'm bored already. I literally only log on to raid now. I enjoy raiding with the TW folks. They're all assholes, and we do stupid shit that wastes time, like wiping on trash. But damn can we 1-2 shot bosses on our first attempts.

I only really raid and do dailies now. Unless they do 10-25 man arenas, I don't really care anymore. Playing at 1900s is far more boring than the 1600s. At least there, we don't only see the same groups over and over.

I need a new PvP game for my own tastes - city building, city destruction, pvp penalties, with a side of PvE. :)

play eve, it has everything you want out of pvp


I enjoy doing arena, who cares about greifing and who cares at all about raiding? I mean you can diss arena because there isnt really anything attainable but there is even less to gain from raids. I mean raiding is really just isketch with a word list we have all seen plenty of times.

I play wow with about 5 irl friends on an almost nightly basis and we have lots of fun. Arena, ganking lowbies, just generally having fun playing together and doing stupid shit.

notice i said serious arena play, not lets just go in for 10 games to get whatever points possible

there is top comps for each bracket for a reason. usually the comps with the least counters, or ones that counter certain often-played teams are the ones you run into the most. what's fun in hitting the "mark" in 2's where you run into nothing but druid/lock, druid/war, spriest/rogue? same thing for the other brackets

to tony not adren btw, you quick ninja poster fag :o

and seriously, you can arena with a lot of different groups and figure out a lot of cool ways to play. I mean the top arena teams arent the same on every battle group, they have their differences. The fun beyond the "mark" is finding new and interesting way to smash on these cookie cutter and usually skill lacking teams.

Its not the paly/war world anymore, but people used to think it was because they hadnt tried a lot of other interesting combos

play eve, it has everything you want out of pvp

I enjoy doing arena, who cares about greifing and who cares at all about raiding? I mean you can diss arena because there isnt really anything attainable but there is even less to gain from raids. I mean raiding is really just isketch with a word list we have all seen plenty of times.

I play wow with about 5 irl friends on an almost nightly basis and we have lots of fun. Arena, ganking lowbies, just generally having fun playing together and doing stupid shit.

and seriously, you can arena with a lot of different groups and figure out a lot of cool ways to play. I mean the top arena teams arent the same on every battle group, they have their differences. The fun beyond the "mark" is finding new and interesting way to smash on these cookie cutter and usually skill lacking teams.

Its not the paly/war world anymore, but people used to think it was because they hadnt tried a lot of other interesting combos

You care about griefing you tool. You just mentioned ganking lowbies, that's a form of griefing. It's just the lamest form in my opinion, so I don't bother with it. It's easy.

Secondly, raiding isn't exactly easy either. Raiding and PvP in WoW is on a similar difficulty - ie, it's just not that difficult.

Third, you might play with 5 friends on a nightly basis. I play with 25 (all TW folks). We have the same fun you guys have, just on a bigger scale. In order to all do something together, we have to raid since there's no 25 man arena.

We don't really play for all that different of reasons. You just take every opportunity to shit on PvE, whereas I enjoy both.

For me, WoW pvp is an on the side thing now because there's no real goal besides having fun when I feel like killing people. It's similar to playing any game for me. Yea, I had fun playing CS. But when I'm not competing in it, eventually, it gets boring, because there's no goal to me. Arena has literally almost NO GOAL in sight. Top teams can just stop playing to stay atop. PvE is similar to that. There's really no goal to it. You PvE, for gear, to do harder PvE. In PvP, you pvp to get gear, to get higher rating. For you, it might be fun, but for me, it isn't. The fun comes with playing with friends, the same can be said about PvE, it's just with more friends. In essence, if Arena was 25 on 25, and you had 25 friends, it'd be fun as shit to play that too, but not for any reason other than playing it with familiar faces and doing it together.

if this guild falls apart i'll roll horde on onyxia to play with you guys :shock:

do you still invite TW members or is recruiting selective? what do you need?

We still invite TW'ers. There's always Friends of STK status for all TW'ers to come and just talk some shit. You get instant invite if you're TW. And typically, we do try to get TW'ers in raids if we can. Short on healers as usual.

Since this is a progression thread I am pleased to say that my guild downed Solarian yesterday :p

Too bad I wasn't there.

Well I got into my friends raiding guild, I'm pretty psyched about that, of course now I have to get geared for kara. I'm 67 so it's coming up fast.

The thing about arena and raids is two fold. There really isn't anything to distinguish you from the crowd. Yeah we have 2200 hunters that pwn, but they post a video, people armory them and next week everyone is doing it. Same with raids.

I know for the 2 classes I play, there are cookie cutter raid, pvp, and leveling specs. Some are the same but you are gimping yourself if you dont follow it. Be original you say? Players put hours of work into the stuff. I put research into this game but some people go beyond.

One of the frustrating things about being a hunter is you have to be a 41/20/0 spec until geared. I could spec something else, but it's been proven through logs that this is hands down the hunter dps spec. I would love to spec MM or SV or scatter shot or imp wing clip but when I'm beating 70 mages and rogues on dps there is no way I'm sacrificing that.

I'm still having a blast as a hunter and the undead priest I rolled is pretty damn fun too.

what server is your priest on?

what server is your priest on?

Spinebreaker.

geared for kara :lol:

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