Way to kill my Arena ambitions

Of course. Can't let warlocks stop being the ultimate class.

dont be mad cuz no other class has healthstones

I can't help but laugh a little as they continue to make resilience a bandaid catchall stat to stack if you want to avoid pvp gayness. And between the last nerf to drain mana, and the new buff I think maybe they need to make up their mind. Either that or just give up and just create a class of PvE only spells like shadowbane did. It's pretty clear they don't want people using certain tactics in PvP.

I just think they want to avoid insta gib tactics in arena

which a mana burn team currently is


how gay would it be if you pretty much died any time you got pyrod by 2 mages or jumped on by 2 rogues.

Looks like the druid situation isn't so bad after all. Here's the new blue quote from today:

"Thanks for the feedback. The Restoration 4-piece Gladiator set bonus has been changed in the next PTR build. It is now the old Stormrage set-bonus, which is -.2 seconds off Regrowth. In addition, the speed bonus to Cheetah will remain on the Feral 4-piece Gladiator set bonus."

WoW Forums -> Resto Druid 4 piece arena change (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.co m/thread.html?topicId=46655 58770&postId=46648907454&sid=1#276)

resto druids did actually get pvp some buffs/fixes too...

* Empowered Rejuvenation: This talent now properly affects the final heal from Lifebloom.
* Lacerate: This ability now deals additional damage based on the attack power of the Druid. (yes i use this in arena as resto! :p:)
* Natural Perfection: This ability will no longer be triggered by taking critical strikes while sitting. In addition, it is now affected by the Subtlety talent.

GUYS CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE MORE IMPORTANT THING HERE??? I LOST MY CHEETAH BONUS. FUCK

the regrowth bonus is alright i guess. the only time you should be using regrowth is if the shit hits the fan, so a faster cast will be nice for it.

GUYS CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE MORE IMPORTANT THING HERE??? I LOST MY CHEETAH BONUS. FUCK

the regrowth bonus is alright i guess. the only time you should be using regrowth is if the shit hits the fan, so a faster cast will be nice for it.

Thanks for the feedback. The Restoration 4-piece Gladiator set bonus has been changed in the next PTR build. It is now the old Stormrage set-bonus, which is -.2 seconds off Regrowth. In addition, the speed bonus to Cheetah will remain on the Feral 4-piece Gladiator set bonus."

i want to see arenas where team rating actually has some value other than selling it for gold... would be nice if there was consistency in the teams you faced, so your team rating truly showed where you stand

but there are also a lot of things wrong with arenas

Thanks for the feedback. The Restoration 4-piece Gladiator set bonus has been changed in the next PTR build. It is now the old Stormrage set-bonus, which is -.2 seconds off Regrowth. In addition, the speed bonus to Cheetah will remain on the Feral 4-piece Gladiator set bonus."

no one gives a shit about feral

i want to see arenas where team rating actually has some value other than selling it for gold... would be nice if there was consistency in the teams you faced, so your team rating truly showed where you stand

but there are also a lot of things wrong with arenas

i dont think you've arena'ed much

LOL

okay kichu

u know me i love to argue :p:

okay so please tell me where i am wrong

this isnt a ladder in the standard sense unless you are from team pandemic or some shit.. people dont care about getting as high as they can anymore as soon as they get their gear.. rewards in general need to change, more for bgs, more for arena (maybe)

daoc had it right..pve for gear..pvp for realm abilities, which somewhat forced you to take part in both.. and it also made things a lot more dynamic

I've played free MMO's that have a funner and more engaging PvP system.

Lake Wintergrasp - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft (http://www.wowwiki.com/Lake_Wintergrasp)

Hopefully this new zone in WOTLK will provide some legitimate world PvP.

Buff Warlocks!

okay so please tell me where i am wrong

this isnt a ladder in the standard sense unless you are from team pandemic or some shit.. people dont care about getting as high as they can anymore as soon as they get their gear.. rewards in general need to change, more for bgs, more for arena (maybe)

daoc had it right..pve for gear..pvp for realm abilities, which somewhat forced you to take part in both.. and it also made things a lot more dynamic

play till 1850+ and you wont see those "just for gear" people any more... obviously anyone past 1850 does play for the spirit of pvp and arena (shoulders are a very minor upgrade) otherwise they wouldnt be above that rating.... and im talking about the present, not end of season 2 ratings.

I've played free MMO's that have a funner and more engaging PvP system.

Lake Wintergrasp - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft (http://www.wowwiki.com/Lake_Wintergrasp)

Hopefully this new zone in WOTLK will provide some legitimate world PvP.

depends on the pvp you like... wow has shit for world pvp, but i dont care for world pvp... never have in any mmo. ive always prefered small team oriented group v group in mmos and fps games.

Yeah the daoc zergfest wasn't exactly my kind of mmo play either. Arena play probably doesn't inspire the masses as much, and probably shouldn't.

Revamped is accurate. It shifted the focus from trying to out-gun each other with bigger and better weapons and more +damage and +crit, to trying to out-survive each other. In essense it just changed the main concern from weapons to armor. I can't help but think that they're just stringing people along. Since the inception of that stat, how much time have people invested trying to farm new gear and balance it with the old stats?

Sooner or later they'll shuffle the deck again and everybody will need to go farm a bunch of new stuff to stay competative.

I think it was a good change but they just seemed to miss developing pvp and pve together and just did them separately for burning crusade. If there's a hint of improving the crossover for the next expansion i'd be much more inclined to play again.

Of course. Can't let warlocks stop being the ultimate class.

That changed several patches ago. Locks just cant do shit now. No one wants them, and if you have one you find yourself wishing you just had a OP BM hunter or any other class for that matter.