Dear heroic instance tanks

IMO it was because no one would run heroics.

Until they buffed up the badge gear and offered dailys, most heroics were dead.

Most ppl ran like H SP and H Mech and avoided the tougher ones.

The risk/reward was not worth it.

It was much easier to get blues from quests and reg dungeons and skip heroics for Kara.

In an effort to make gearing up for PvE easier on casuals, I believe they implemented all these changes.

In your scenario Osiris, a shitty tank is better than no tank. You just have to compromise and teach/compensate for the tank's deficiencies, otherwise don't run it and save yourself the frustration.

I'm mainly talking spending 30 minutes looking for a tank and getting him there only to find he has crappy gear that wont cut it or will probably make shit frustrating.

It's also kind of hard to play on the level of your tank when he doesn't know how to use Swipe (druid). Worst part is he had decent gear :/

if your heroic lvl tank is using swipe to multi target tank, you've got more to worry about than just gear. swipe sucks dick at early lvls for multi target tanking, cause the dmg is complete shit. heals will easily out aggro something that has only been swiped. they should be lacerating. swipe only works well when you have 4pct6 and the stats that come w/ it

also... if a tank's gear is so bad you feel like you need to come here to complain about it, why are you making groups for them that don't have enough cc? asking someone in such bad gear to multi tank is dumb

I'm not making groups with them. I'm telling them to piss off.

The problem existed before switching to honored, so why not just armory check the people before you invite them?

I tank heroics.

The problem existed before switching to honored, so why not just armory check the people before you invite them?

That is done a lot when the armory is actually working and the profile on it shows them actually wearing their gear for PvE.