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ferret 02-12-2008, 02:21 PM So I've leveled extremely fast compared to the people I started out with. Along the way, I've met people which is cool. I try to be cool in the game which has hurt me in the long run.
So, I'm sitting at 42, and some of the guys I've met along the way are still in thier 20's, and a few in thier 30's. I keep in touch with them. The thing that bugs me is I log on, and I tell myself 'Okay, i got X hours to get to level X, then I begin the grind.
Then the requests come in.
Seriously, on Saturday I spent 6 hours running people through quests, mobs, etc. Half the time they dont even know what do, once a guy had me go from stv to ashenvale just to find out he wanted me to help him farm an area for drops. Another guy put 'need' on every drop, even items he couldn't wear. The ones that are thankful have no clue about the quest so you have go to thottbot for them. All I can think about when I'm doing these is how I'm spending my time leveling someone else up. I could have been 50 by now easy (and actually help when I hit 70).
The irony of this is I've asked for 0 help in this game (its just not in my nature/ I'll level up first if I can't do something). One guy did give me 2g for my mount fund, so that's my reward for wasting 1d of playtime helping ppl out. I dont even ask for help from guildmates because I will probably hop when I hit 70.
I do this because hopefully someday they will return the favor, but most have shown they either:
1) Are too selfish to return the favor
2) Will not be able (i.e. will never hit 70)
3) Do not grasp the elements of the game enough to help.
I know this is alot worse for the 70's, but it seems more practical to help then too. However for someone trying to grind as well its a huge time waster. I'm done helping people out.
Sir Lucius 02-12-2008, 02:24 PM Don't make friends in game. Everyone you don't know should be treated like an idiot until they can prove otherwise.
Falhawk 02-12-2008, 02:25 PM the most fun in this game is had by grinding
playing with friends is for morons.
Feannag 02-12-2008, 02:29 PM The only time I help is in two situations.
1. Dungeon runs for quests.
2. Group/elite quests.
They also need to be relatively competent. If I help a priest and I don't get fort or helping a mage whose not polymorphing adds I leave.
To me it makes sense since it clearly can't be done solo, but I do require the people I know to have all the quests ready to do before the dungeon run. If they get any loot, then great, but it's the XP that counts. With the XP buff the dungeon quests give noticeably more XP than normal now. But other than that I won't help people unless it's some quick thing like killing one mob and I'm in the area. I certainly won't ride/fly/port out of my way to help someone on the other side of the world.
If they need help with the normal quests, you link them to wowhead and lightheaded and tomtom/cratograhper and say "have fun!".
BTW you still grind? It's so easy to level doing quests now...
RebelToRumble 02-12-2008, 02:45 PM Just tell them it's killing their XP to have a higher level run them around. It's more xp/hour if they do it themselves and with people their level.
tell me to L2P
ferret 02-12-2008, 02:45 PM BTW you still grind? It's so easy to level doing quests now...
Actually, I pretty much do quests now, however there are alot of grinding quests I've been doing lately. Some of em you have to kill 200+ mobs before you get all the drops. I've been following Fool's revised guide religously, and it makes questing seem more like grinding. I dont even read the quests, just to coords and the requirements. They are arranged in a manner you dont move around too much.
However I will grind if I can't find a quest monster who is supposed to be in the area. I'll just grind till it shows up.
PessimiStick 02-12-2008, 03:15 PM Give them answers, not help. The entire game (excluding instance quests) is soloable. Link them to wowhead/thottbot, tell then where something is if you know, and otherwise just ignore them.
Personally, anyone that makes a habit of asking me before looking for themselves on wowhead will very, very quickly find my ignore list.
If it's random people asking, and not someone you know, just flat-out ignore them. I ignore at least 15 unique tells every day.
HaPpY 02-13-2008, 02:50 PM i have little respect for people who need help doing lowbie shit... therefore i dont make friends with them. therefore this is not an issue for me.
see it from that angle.
TonyElTigre 02-13-2008, 04:05 PM as a warrior, ive learned to just ignore all requests as they come
as a warrior, ive learned to just ignore all requests as they come
:signed:
Once you roll a healing or tanking class, the requests pour in. You really have to ignore them if you want to have time for yourself.
HaPpY 02-13-2008, 04:48 PM or as a druid ... requests for both tank or healz :\
Blotter 02-13-2008, 04:50 PM you will learn to manage your time
and to do that effectively, you will have to be an asshole at times
where is fools revised guide?
DeadlyRabbit 02-13-2008, 05:34 PM Most people are tired of me in this game I am sure.
WWwwwaaaaaaahhhh I want to go to bed! Why do I have to tank everything from Wailing Caverns to TK WWWWAAAHHHHH!
yes it is that bad.
where is fools revised guide?
still a work in progress
Feannag 02-13-2008, 09:29 PM :signed:
Once you roll a healing or tanking class, the requests pour in. You really have to ignore them if you want to have time for yourself.
I have found I got more tanking requests on my Prot pally than I ever have on a warrior, and a little less than heal requests from my priest. But the most requests I get for dungeons has been off my mage. Prot pally I'll get maybe 2 - 3 tells a week asking to tank, my priest gets 1 every couple of days to heal. But my mage... I dunno what was going on but I usually get 3 - 4 tells a session asking to do dungeons.
Joemomma5000 02-13-2008, 10:02 PM I very rarely help strangers. I will run guildies through something but only if I'm already 70. There's no sense in it taking an extra 3 hours for me to hit 70 because I ran WC 3x in a row.
Slobax 02-13-2008, 10:52 PM Might as well go play CS or something with that dick attitude.
Why play MMORPGs if you don't bring sociability to the table. MMO's are social games, the only thing that makes them fun are the social aspects. It's one reason i have a hard time sticking to console / single players games - they lack the social feeling i've come accustomed to in MMO's.
I don't see why you play if you despise talking / helping other friendly people out.
Heimdal 02-13-2008, 11:30 PM why not just say you're busy, or can't help at the moment. get to 70, and if you really feel like being helpful, do it then.
most importantly, ask what it is you are going to help with before you do. did you actually stay and help that guy farm for drops? i would have said fuck you. if i am in a helpful mood, i'll ask what it is they need help with. if i feel confident that they can do it themselves i will help them by telling them where to go, what to do, and/or how to do it. if i know they can't, i might help. that only goes for people that i've known awhile. how long have you known these people anyway? i know level wise, but i don't know how long it took you to reach your level.
then you have to realize that there are a lot more people in this game that are in it for themselves, than those that are thankful for your help and will return the favor. that goes for every mmo.
i know one of the biggest aspects of mmo's is (or is supposed to be) the social part of it, but that doesn't say you have to drop what you're doing and help others that you've known for a few weeks i'm guessing.
i will help people i have played with for years, and people within my guild if i am able. usually without question. if a stranger asks me for help, i just ignore it unless it's someone in my immediate area that needs help with a quest or something i am currently doing.
Osiris 02-14-2008, 05:21 AM Might as well go play CS or something with that dick attitude.
Why play MMORPGs if you don't bring sociability to the table. MMO's are social games, the only thing that makes them fun are the social aspects. It's one reason i have a hard time sticking to console / single players games - they lack the social feeling i've come accustomed to in MMO's.
I don't see why you play if you despise talking / helping other friendly people out.
Friendly people. There aren't that many of them.
PessimiStick 02-14-2008, 06:47 AM Might as well go play CS or something with that dick attitude.
Why play MMORPGs if you don't bring sociability to the table. MMO's are social games, the only thing that makes them fun are the social aspects. It's one reason i have a hard time sticking to console / single players games - they lack the social feeling i've come accustomed to in MMO's.
I don't see why you play if you despise talking / helping other friendly people out.
You named your character "Doormat", didn't you?
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