Music ended in 1999.

Discuss.

Once the genre of hip house died, the rest of music went with it. I'll agree with the statement citing proof in Technotronics:
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Name a song written that late in the game that will actually stand the test of time. Here's the top 10 for that year:

# 1. Believe w Cher
# 2. No Scrubs w TLC
# 3. Angel Of Mine w Monica
# 4. Heartbreak Hotel w Whitney Houston
# 5. ...Baby One More Time w Britney Spears
# 6. Kiss Me w Sixpence None The Richer
# 7. Genie In A Bottle w Christina Aguilera
# 8. Every Morning w Sugar Ray
# 9. Nobody's Supposed To Be Here w Deborah Cox
# 10. Livin' La Vida Loca w Ricky Martin

Nope, nothing there worth listening to, really.

Music died in 1993 with Kurt Cobain. Seriously, it seems like there was nothing really worthwhile happening after that. Kurt was no music god, but it seems like that's pretty much the milestone that describes where meaningful music sort of....ended.

Before that, all kinds of music was made that stands the test of time: in the 80s, we had a lot of new wave and hair metal that still gets played today. Can you hum Dead or Alive? I thought so. How about "Cars" by Gary Numan? Yep. Material Girl? Check.

In the 70s we had Zeppelin, we had early Rush, we had Jim Croce early on and James Taylor. Hell, I can hum Carpenters tunes. Not because I'm old (I am), but because these are *fantastic* songs. The 60s had the Stones...Hendrix...Airpla ne...to name a few. In the 50s we had Perry Como and Bing Crosby and Sinatra...

But the 90s and 00s? Nada. Zilch. Corporate greed and mass production of "hit music" has taken the place of songcraft and true art. It's sad. I wish I could be the guy who makes a fucking masterpiece of a song. I wish anyone could, at this point.

I was about to say music died in 2003, after all of my favorites cd's were released then, I stopped being arrogant and closed minded and thought about how every generation has their own music.

Psh. If you seriously think music is dead you're a fuck.

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old skul forgot somehow to mention the beatles in there. seems every generation has covered at least one of their songs somewhere.

i dont think that music died with the death of cobain, hes only a household name with gen x'ers and younger.

i would suggest garth brooks is pretty high on the charts for 90's music, he had so many hits that were cross overs in multiple markets. i would also suggest tool as a band that was/is in rotation in various markets. they of course started in the 90s albiet with significantly less impact than garth brooks.

these are of course my observations and not based in fact in any way.

Maybe music isn't dead
Maybe music isn't dead
Maybe we all just forgot what it fucking sounded like

I have to agree that yes, a shitload of crap and the bling bling industry of music is a powerhouse nowadays. But I have to disagree when you say songs from the modern era will never last. It's probably not your type, so you tend to notice a bit less a couple of tracks impact (referring to old skul).

You can laugh all you want but Snap! with their hit Rhythm is a Dancer will stand the test of time. How about Daft Punk (old and new songs alike)? Around the World is like an anthology to house/electro music and will stay forever. How about REM (yeah they began in the 80's but they have a couple of classics that were created in late 90's). How about groups like Coldplay and White Stripes? I'm not necessarily a big fan but who hasn't heard Seven Nation Army?

I could name a lot of others, this isn't exhaustive, like I say they probably struck you much less than older hits because it's not really your style.

Recoil's: Liquid (2000), Subhuman (2007), NIN's Year Zero (2007).

There's 3 off the top of my head.

Music isn't dead at all, you just gotta know where to look.

There's a lot of good music released, even today. You just have to *gasp* look for it. 3 great albums off the top of my head from the past 3 years:

Broken Social Scene Broken Social Scene (2005)
Neko Case Fox Confessor Brings the Flood (2006)
The Mars Volta Frances the Mute (2005)

:lol: FlyEmcee, you are making some side splittingly funny jokes :rofl:

It's not like artists/bands are trying to make shitty music. Just today's muscians listened to songs that the 90's and 80's had to offer then wrote about it.

People have different experiences to write about so of course it's gonna be different.

Name a song written that late in the game that will actually stand the test of time. Here's the top 10 for that year:

# 1. Believe w Cher
# 2. No Scrubs w TLC
# 3. Angel Of Mine w Monica
# 4. Heartbreak Hotel w Whitney Houston
# 5. ...Baby One More Time w Britney Spears
# 6. Kiss Me w Sixpence None The Richer
# 7. Genie In A Bottle w Christina Aguilera
# 8. Every Morning w Sugar Ray
# 9. Nobody's Supposed To Be Here w Deborah Cox
# 10. Livin' La Vida Loca w Ricky Martin

Nope, nothing there worth listening to, really.

Music died in 1993 with Kurt Cobain. Seriously, it seems like there was nothing really worthwhile happening after that. Kurt was no music god, but it seems like that's pretty much the milestone that describes where meaningful music sort of....ended.

Before that, all kinds of music was made that stands the test of time: in the 80s, we had a lot of new wave and hair metal that still gets played today. Can you hum Dead or Alive? I thought so. How about "Cars" by Gary Numan? Yep. Material Girl? Check.

In the 70s we had Zeppelin, we had early Rush, we had Jim Croce early on and James Taylor. Hell, I can hum Carpenters tunes. Not because I'm old (I am), but because these are *fantastic* songs. The 60s had the Stones...Hendrix...Airpla ne...to name a few. In the 50s we had Perry Como and Bing Crosby and Sinatra...

But the 90s and 00s? Nada. Zilch. Corporate greed and mass production of "hit music" has taken the place of songcraft and true art. It's sad. I wish I could be the guy who makes a fucking masterpiece of a song. I wish anyone could, at this point.


Im probably not much younger than you (33) and I always thought that music today was shittier than the music I listened to in the 80's. But the truth is, the shit I listened to in the 80's fucking sucked as well.

Posion, Bon Jovi and all the hair metal bands fucking sucked. The bands of the 80s and 90s are just as shitty as the bands of today (im talking mainstream) There are good bands out there today, as everyone else has said you just have to look for them.

The Little Ones, Doves, LCD Soundsystem all good bands I have found on youtube.

If you are stuck in the 80s/90s however then nothing will change your mind and get you listening to new music. I've started liking alot of the shit that bands are writing now. I about fucking puke when I hear a heavy metal song now.

Hip Hop still lives.

Hip Hop still lives.

Not out in the open though. The last few years haven't really shown anything new in the genre in my opinion. Most people will cite madlib or Doom as new underground artists, but they've been around for years. Underground hip hop is taking a nap right now, it'll be back in 2009.

This is one market that can take artists out a different door. If producers and labels arent serving your interests, then do what has always been done in music - guerrilla distribution. The net is great for this.

There is some great music being released today...I didn't post my thoughts as well as I hoped. It must have been the martinis.

I think most music today is perfectly disposable and we'll never hear it again. There is some that will stand the test of time, but it is by a long shot the minority. Sure, Frances the Mute will stick with us. Same with Year Zero. But that's a tiny fraction of the total music released. Back in the days of the album, I honestly think the quality of the art was higher.

Then again, a lot of shit was released back in the "old days" too - we just don't remember it. "Afternoon Delight," anyone? :lol:

But we are no longer living in the "album era". Now it's all about the single - the download, the ringtone. There will be very few "albums" released that are meant to be listened to as a unit in the future (which is sad) - people's attention spans are shortening and we're not going to be able to bring a long-format musical work to market with any expectations anymore. People just want the quick and dirty on-demand song.

But we are no longer living in the "album era". Now it's all about the single - the download, the ringtone. There will be very few "albums" released that are meant to be listened to as a unit in the future (which is sad) - people's attention spans are shortening and we're not going to be able to bring a long-format musical work to market with any expectations anymore. People just want the quick and dirty on-demand song.

I think this will change in the next 5 years.

This is also one reason why I'm agaisnt downloading songs.