Why I'm not playing T2

Originally posted by Brain^Virus


Ok. However, game development isn't the company's main function. To me it feels like the 4 of them are making an independent game and simply publishing it under their label. I realize that doesn't quite make sense, but that's the vibe I get.

Btw, I stick by suprise in the place of surprise. It's mispronounced and misspelled enough to have become its own word. :P

LOL! Fair enough.

I still can't wait to see what they come up with. I'd take them over the current Dynamix anyday.

This is true too...however in this game HO is not the only way of effectively taking a base out. I wish everyone would understand that.


Ok DJ, it's not the only way. If you count
getting someone to drive a vehicle while you spam
mortars as HO- well
then, ok. There is HO in T2. :(

However . . As far as going heavy, alone- I have
seen NONE of it (that is effective anyway) in T2.
You get heavy and you are basically a very slow
moving mortar turret. Fun.

Originally posted by Vanster


Ok DJ, it's not the only way. If you count
getting someone to drive a vehicle while you spam
mortars as HO- well
then, ok. There is HO in T2. :(

However . . As far as going heavy, alone- I have
seen NONE of it (that is effective anyway) in T2.
You get heavy and you are basically a very slow
moving mortar turret. Fun.

You haven't seen my mortar spam.....

Every try something besides heavy? I like plasma more than mortars to take out gens because of the refire rate.

Alternatives to Heavy O:

Med/Sheild
Light/Sheild
Light/Cloak
Light/Satchel
Medium/Satchel
Light Energy (for when speed counts).

If you cant make any of those work then :ralf:

Originally posted by Vanster


Ok DJ, it's not the only way. If you count
getting someone to drive a vehicle while you spam
mortars as HO- well
then, ok. There is HO in T2. :(

However . . As far as going heavy, alone- I have
seen NONE of it (that is effective anyway) in T2.
You get heavy and you are basically a very slow
moving mortar turret. Fun.

Speaking of mortar turrets, I was playing around with T1 moding and gave the mortar turrets the ability to fire on their own... it was kind of funny. :)

T1 was susposed to be a team game. Skiing ruined the teamwork aspect of the game that the developers were looking for. One person could take over a game. The developers looked at T2 as a second chance to make a team-based game that included the rest of the team and not just one person. They took the teamwork aspect to an extreme to make sure they got what they were hoping for. They beefed up many defensive things, such as turrets and flag positions, to force teamwork. I believe they should have took in to account what the players were asking for more, but they made the game how they envisioned it in the first place. Can you really blame Dynamix for that?

Originally posted by Cuda
T1 was susposed to be a team game.

<b>SQUAD</b>, not <b>TEAM</b>!

Originally posted by Cuda
T1 was susposed to be a team game. Skiing ruined the teamwork aspect of the game that the developers were looking for. One person could take over a game. The developers looked at T2 as a second chance to make a team-based game that included the rest of the team and not just one person. They took the teamwork aspect to an extreme to make sure they got what they were hoping for. They beefed up many defensive things, such as turrets and flag positions, to force teamwork. I believe they should have took in to account what the players were asking for more, but they made the game how they envisioned it in the first place. Can you really blame Dynamix for that?

Oh jeez. I thought we squashed that fallacy.

I can understand where any of the old IE members are coming from. When they were on the ladder, there was no competition for them really. They destroyed all the good teams that were on the ladder at the time. So I can see where the old school IE have their point. The only teams that even gave them a run for their money was:Fallen(old school days), kZ, and (R). They lost to CoNsT on SB, I think that was a big deal. They lost a scrim to NuTz without a full IE roster. That doesnt sound like much of a reason to stay on the ladder. And if they would stayed, they would have sucked up many many good players that landed on other teams. They happened to be playing at level that no one else was. They stopped playing together for months and didnt they still win at Gala vs all the teams that were still competing everyday? I could care less about IE or any other team, and I am not sucking their asses either, but for anyone to say the competition didnt get intense till after they left is a crock of shit. Tribes 1 competition was always tough. It was getting very boring and stale by early 2000 anyways, which is about when they left. When they left, other teams stepped up. Run&Gun held #1 after they left for what, 2 months? They beat NuTz, FTM, TF, all powerhouse teams at the time. Then shortly after it was S3's and 5150's shot at the #1 slots. When those 2 teams left that was the death of hardcore T1 competition. That was the final blow. And even those 2 teams didnt dominate like IE. We will see if anyone can pull off what they did in T2.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHH

PARAGRAPHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Originally posted by Wulfen


Oh jeez. I thought we squashed that fallacy.

In order to prove something false one needs to provide proof not just give a flame heavy version of "NUH UH"

first 2 things:

1) Tribes 1 was a sport, not just a game.
2) T2 sucking is not about skill, its about lack of FUN.

T1 was the greatest game ever made.. why? because it was FUN AS HELL and addicting every single time you played it- whether you sucked or not. right from broke ass version 1 on up.

it stole away our lives for the last 3 years. In T1 you had work at 8 in the morning, but you were still up practicing with friends everynight till 7:30, sacrificing school and relationships and food because that shit was FUN.


T2, is only mildly fun and nowhere near addictive. This argument about T1 players just being pissed off that theyre not elite right from the start?

None of the T1 vets really care about how good they are because skills can be TRAINED.

Its the fun in learning the strats and skills that just aint there. so why waste your time trying to improve in a game that is only mildly entertaining at best? The feel isnt as good, and the uniqueness is gone.



So why do all you T2 lovers forsake tribes 1? if you all didnt like tribes 1 why did you play it religiously for 3 years? The game was close to perfection, why throw it all out the window in "the name of developing a completely new game"? seriously, what the fuck is wrong with all of you?

If youre building a sequel, usually you dont want to throw out and revamp all the cool shit people enjoyed about the original. Its counterproductive

Also, it feels to me that the T2 developers completely disregarded how tribes 1 had evolved and what we had learnt through constant competitive play. Or maybe they never even played at a high competitive level or understood why everyone from the best on down to the lowest newbie revered watching top teams play. Because the speed, communication, technique and teamwork were exhilirating and fun as hell. Some of the most fun i had in T1 was just skiing around empty levels, discjumping around.

in T2 they reduce skiing and fuck up the maps just to bring APCs back? that seems to me the wrong way to go about it. They should have made APCS more attractive rather then slowing down player speed to MAKE you have to use apcs. a good game would have had progressive, not backwords engineering.

Mark my words, T2 is never going to amount to the game tribes1 was. And that sucks, because it had the POTENTIAL to BUILD on the greatness of T1 that everyone was passionate about and become a true legitmate sport.

Im serious, i could totally see the potential for it to have become a popular spectator sport.

Ill still give it a chance if they ever fix it, but i seriously doubt it.

heres the middle finger to dynamix for "Episode One" butchering my favorite game.

Thread...

Will...

Not...

Die...


TO much truth about how much T2 blowz I suppose.

Im a poet and didnt know it!

JesseJames

BUMP! :p

Cuz Im reading the Tao manual.

Originally posted by nullper


In order to prove something false one needs to provide proof not just give a flame heavy version of "NUH UH"

Flame heavy? LOL! Yeah, that was a pretty heavy retort from me, I just roasted the guy.

And any 'proof' that I provide you would just ignore anyway. As has been said numerous times, if you were ever in the top 20, you would understand.

WOW over 800 posts here. I guess for those that say they really don't care.............I GUESS YOU DO! Since the majority of the posts are flaming Natural for posting his opinion (like assholes everyone hase one so live with it )
For those that think he has no skill, duel him. Hell for that matter take his Tribe on if you wanna see the teamwork that you say he lacks. Bet you get that ass beat :) Nooooo I'm not sucking his *AHEM*. I don't even know the guy, but I have heard and seen the demos of the many assbeatings, it's just downright ugly. This is not the only person to have these feelings about the game. Hell most have been talking about how many posts there are on this topic....uhhhhhhhh I think that would give you a hint about the game. There's something missing in it. People don't talk to each other while playing like they use to. Not even trash talk. And look at all the Tking and vehicle stealing. The game and the community is being ruined by people flaming each other to point of no longer talking during the game and some are even just smurfing constantly to TK and cause problems instead of playing. Don't blame it on the newbies, hell anyone knows a green arrow over someone's head as opposed to a red one. But that was another bug too wasn't it (some people for some reason had no arrows over thier head) I haven't had it for a while but I remember it. Enuff from me, I know I get long winded, but let people speak thier piece on the game..good or bad. I am currently playing it very well thanx to the new patch but I won't flame people that are having problems because I did too. And some just won't like the game. Take a look at the communication during games...it's not as team oriented as you think evidentally.

One question.
What the hell are you talking about?

I dont know where you got half of that shit from, but no one is complaining about 'Teamwork on pubs' and 'Vehicle stealing'. Thats been a problem with internet gaming sinse day 1. Make sure you know what you are talking about before you start flaming everyone. Thanks...

rofl seriously...he was the most known player from tribes. And you newbies from quake think you'll get respect for flaming some "newbie" name natural because you've never seen him before.
rofl

i love it how quakers think they're hot shit when they dont no the first thing about this game or the original tribes

lots of good stuff in this thread and thanks to the guys that kept saying 'kill this thread' and bumping it so i could find it easier.

I agree with Pubknight, trying to go back to what Tribes was way back when is hopeless. You can prolly still go back, play, and have a good time with your buddies, but the community has already moved on. Tribes 2 is where the action is at.

Tribes 2 is new and fresh and I'm having a lot of fun with it already on a P3 450, even with all the bugs the game has to offer.

It seems to me Nat that your jumping to conclusions. Tribes 2 has hardly any time at all to get moving, how long did it take tribes 1 to get going? Sooner or later this game will be tweaked, tuned, and a great deal of fun.

Tribes 1 is so unbalanced, it is like renegades compared to T2. There is a counter to pretty much everything in T2, which is what will make it more fun in the long run. I can't wait to see the strategies teams come up with. Perhaps some teams will be FEARED for their shrikes, bombers, and air combat tactics, where others will be known for their gang of gravcycles that leap up onto rooftops and run over the enemy defense, or perhaps just known for their invincible Defense and turret setups. Tribes 2 leaves more room for teams to have their own personality(Much like T1 teams were known for having nasty cappers, LD, or strong HO).

You can go back and play tribes 1 if that's where the fun is at for you. In fact, I would suggest it, that is the whole point of playing video games. But this game is going to be a whole SHITLOAD of fun in a little while. I'm already having a blast.

It's more interesting to listen to shoutcasts too. The other day I was listening to my brother z2.April-Fool cap against the templars. He grabbed the flag and ran like hell, dodging shrikes that were shooting at him, lasers that were wizzing past him, chain bullets were everywhere, mortars and discs were exploding around him, all the while he was tossing flares to keep the missles off. I was excited just listening to this, I can't imagine how intense it was for him. Shit like that is AWESOME man, and T1 doesn't have that.

T1 was the greatest game ever back in the day, but for me it's old and dead now. This is an exciting time for the Tribes community imo =)