Why I'm not playing T2

hi.

this thread is bringing more supporters to my army :clap:

Originally posted by -W- sKILLz
" T2 is slow and boring and dumbed down - most of the people who say it is just right now are people who were mediocre in T1 - you lack the tactical skills and the reflexes to compete in the highspeed environment of T1 so you feel right at home in T2 - now that everyone moves at the same speed, you dont have to deal with elite players who can out ski, our chain and generally out play your sorry ass. "


BULLSHIT PENDRAGON

You are so WRONG on that point. There is MANY awsome tribes 1 players playing T2 and LOVING IT-I am 1. Just because the "majority" of IE isnt playing T2, doesnt mean most Tribes 1 elite arn't. IE was awsome, the best in there erra-but there is HUNDREDS of other AWSOME players, playing T2, that played T1 right up to the end.



I never said good teams were not playing - or that they were not having fun - I am saying that these evangelists of "slow tribes playing" are what I said they are.

You may or may not fit that category - and please note that I did not uyse exclusive words like "all" and "always" - I said "most"

calm down

What will make T2 fun for me?
- Get rid of all Turrets
- Get rid of the Rocket launcher / flares / shields on vehicles
- make all maps like Damnation, Kata, and Riverdance.(Mappers do it please)

Why do I say the first two?
I'm an LD, I dont trust little automated Turrets backing me up, I want people. Relying on Turrets is like relying on a cane to hold you up, because thats all they are to defense.
I dont want Mediums and Heavies to sit there and snipe people with fucking nearly auto aim rockets, fuck that shit, give me a rifle and I'll make them feel pain.

Originally posted by {CG}Pendragon




I never said good teams were not playing - or that they were not having fun - I am saying that these evangelists of "slow tribes playing" are what I said they are.

You may or may not fit that category - and please note that I did not uyse exclusive words like "all" and "always" - I said "most"

calm down

Yes he's flaming me and PJ and thats it ;)

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Lets see. Random unknown newbie that no one gives a shit about vs a T1 vet that is respected and one of the best players ever. I think you said it best here cept you're the target.

"But most importantly, no one cares what you think."

Welcome to Tribalwar.com rookie. You may now stfu. Have a day. :bigthumb:


Originally posted by Coprophobia
To sum up your post, Natural: <B>Wah.</b>

How can u say that the game was a vision of one man? You're right, its not like one of the lead developers <I>came to the community asking for suggestions</i> or anything constantly.

Where have you been? You've been too busy basking in your own "glory" of being a Tribes "legend" to actually realize the huge input that the Dev team allowed for T2.

You should've expected changes. I am still completely baffled at how people are STILL *whining* about the changes when they've been asking for them ever since they heard T2 announced. What did you expect? The same game physics, tactics and maps but with fancier graphics? Sadly, this is true for <b>some</b> people.

Too bad you're one of them.

But most importantly, no one cares what you think.

/me drops $.02 in the bucket.

oh - and T2 is:

slow

boring (IMO - and that of many others - boring is a subjective description, so sit down)

dummbed down - is there really any question?

Dave G went for mass appeal - congrats, you may be rewarded as a good business man - I suppose. Woopty do - you sold out the soul of the best game ever made.

Plenty of you dont think so, good for you.

This will always be a debate along the lines of conservative vs liberal, abortion vs pro-life, coke vs pepsi, ford vs chevy - and so on.

I am expressing my opinions in a very emotional and agressive manner - some of you I really do not like and I feel the need to let you know.

My reasons for dislikling T2 are quite lucent and rational and I could enumerate them, but they have already been enumerated.

Its quite simple really - many of us like FAST play - T2 is not FAST - many of you do not like FAST play - so I choose to look down upon you, insult you and address you as an inferior at every turn. This is how I feel about the issue - if you do not agree with me about the speed issue, you must like a slow game - I cannot imagine why you like slow play except that you are incapable at effective play when the game is moving at a faster pace - thus, I consider you less competent and I loath your lack of gaming prowess. I do not want to associate with you.

Fast play is a lot more challenging and difficult - some of you get frustrated and discouraged by that - that is fine, enjoy your T2 experience, you deserve some ammount of happiness in life.

Note that I do not consider you less valuable as a human, only less valuable as a gamer.

Thank you.

I just came up with a good way to make threads on the forums..

Do ' generic loop

Rant = Random("Reason why I am not playing Tribes 2")
Post(Rant)

Loop Until (("Tribes 3") = Released) or "I cease to exist"



That should work for a while.

Originally posted by {CG}Pendragon
oh - and T2 is:

slow

boring (IMO - and that of many others - boring is a subjective description, so sit down)

dummbed down - is there really any question?

Dave G went for mass appeal - congrats, you may be rewarded as a good business man - I suppose. Woopty do - you sold out the soul of the best game ever made.

Plenty of you dont think so, good for you.

This will always be a debate along the lines of conservative vs liberal, abortion vs pro-life, coke vs pepsi, ford vs chevy - and so on.

I am expressing my opinions in a very emotional and agressive manner - some of you I really do not like and I feel the need to let you know.

My reasons for dislikling T2 are quite lucent and rational and I could enumerate them, but they have already been enumerated.

Its quite simple really - many of us like FAST play - T2 is not FAST - many of you do not like FAST play - so I choose to look down upon you, insult you and address you as an inferior at every turn. This is how I feel about the issue - if you do not agree with me about the speed issue, you must like a slow game - I cannot imagine why you like slow play except that you are incapable at effective play when the game is moving at a faster pace - thus, I consider you less competent and I loath your lack of gaming prowess. I do not want to associate with you.

Fast play is a lot more challenging and difficult - some of you get frustrated and discouraged by that - that is fine, enjoy your T2 experience, you deserve some ammount of happiness in life.

Note that I do not consider you less valuable as a human, only less valuable as a gamer.

Thank you.



Makes everyone wonder why you don't design games.. since you are obviously superior to everyone.

Originally posted by Phyzx


Remember the T1 RENvsBASE pickup game? ya, I thought so...

You fucking idiot. I joined a ren team towards the T2 release date... ever heard of n202?

I have no problem with Spawn Ren at all, but I have a problem with an elitist renegades guy who hasn't been in the base community all that long telling us who has skills and who doesn't.

Wow Pen, so anyone who doesn't like what you like, is automatically below you? Miracle you can make friends with an attitude like that. :/

I do like fast and furious gameplay, but T1 was completely unbalanced. A lone cowboy or heavy bomber (lets not call them heavy armor, they did fly after all ;) ) could disable or level base defenses alone. That makes for tedious gameplay which relies on only 'twitch skills' which to me makes a very boring game.

There is a whole different feel to T2 that makes it a more visceral experience. Feeling the ground shake as bombs or mortars hit nearby, being blinded by flash grenades, hearing the wailing of the missile lock siren when you use your jets too much in the wrong place... it makes the game an experience and not just hitting a button and turning the mouse to hit some goofy ski run perfectly 40,000 times the same way every run.

I mean, some cap routes were so beaten in, a good heavy D could probably lob a mortar and time it to hit right in the cappers path.

It was lame because no matter how you played it, it was always the same. T2 is different just about every time I play. That makes the experience more fun, and surprisingly I've only played on pubs so far and seem to be the lucky one getting some good players and seeing teamwork used on both sides.

^^ word up.

Originally posted by {CG}Pendragon
oh - and T2 is:

slow

boring (IMO - and that of many others - boring is a subjective description, so sit down)

dummbed down - is there really any question?

Dave G went for mass appeal - congrats, you may be rewarded as a good business man - I suppose. Woopty do - you sold out the soul of the best game ever made.

Plenty of you dont think so, good for you.

This will always be a debate along the lines of conservative vs liberal, abortion vs pro-life, coke vs pepsi, ford vs chevy - and so on.

I am expressing my opinions in a very emotional and agressive manner - some of you I really do not like and I feel the need to let you know.

My reasons for dislikling T2 are quite lucent and rational and I could enumerate them, but they have already been enumerated.

Its quite simple really - many of us like FAST play - T2 is not FAST - many of you do not like FAST play - so I choose to look down upon you, insult you and address you as an inferior at every turn. This is how I feel about the issue - if you do not agree with me about the speed issue, you must like a slow game - I cannot imagine why you like slow play except that you are incapable at effective play when the game is moving at a faster pace - thus, I consider you less competent and I loath your lack of gaming prowess. I do not want to associate with you.

Fast play is a lot more challenging and difficult - some of you get frustrated and discouraged by that - that is fine, enjoy your T2 experience, you deserve some ammount of happiness in life.

Note that I do not consider you less valuable as a human, only less valuable as a gamer.

Thank you.

My turn :)

I found the " Fast pace" excedingly boring becasue in order to have that fast pace you have to sacrafice Options. I like more variety in my games T2 has that.

Dumbed down? Hardly I guess you mean TG positions if so don't do that there are a plethora of positions to play that require tons of skill and practice. If you can't see that then I hope your not going to try to play competitivly because you will be in for a shock.

Sold out and no soul? Subjective on your part though I hardly think so. THis isn't the game for the quake mentality so will not appeal to the lowest common demoniator of the gaming community. This is a game of brains and skill.

I agree there will be a debate but not "always". Tribes will disappear (as will T2 when its time comes)

Now I like fast play in moderation but not for 9 damn years (which is roughly how long I've been playing "Fast pace" Games) It's fun in its way but it's sorta like watching survior and then watching survivor 2 it starts to loose its appeal. I can only assume you are either young yet or haven't played too many of these games. Either way you'll understand what I mean in a few years. You can look down on me all you want Truth be known I see you in a similar vein only difference is I understand your point of view. a few years ago I may have shared it. Right now I pity you for not being able to understand the depth of this game.

But I'll tell you what. I apologize for anything I said that may have been offensive to you or your sensibilities I share your level of passion only I like T2 more. So what say you?

Originally posted by Ceiling_Fan


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Hey look! I regged before Nat! My point must be even more valid :lol:

Come on. He's a very good Tribes 1 player that doesn't like T2. That's great. Time to move on to greener pastures, then. VAB. :wave:

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My point are even more valid than CF's and I agree :D

I like Pendragon's point... I think I'm going to listen in on the next broadcast of a T2 match and compare it to TG2K... it'll be like comparing a 911 Turbo vs. a luxary disel mercedes. Some maps are probably good, but speed and intensity of play is a main thing that I feel T2 lacks overall.

My T2 suggestions? Make movement 2x faster, bring it back to some basic limited deployable turrets, shrink some of the oversized maps and make it so the scout can't run over people so easily (i.e. mowing down cappers)

I dunno, I just had a hellova time playing some T1 on Shitheads server. We need some more good ones up again...

CF I know that man. Seeing newbs come on here thinking they know everything Tribes is grating to say the least. You don't feel the same way sometimes? :hrm:

Originally posted by Ceiling_Fan


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Hey look! I regged before Nat! My point must be even more valid :lol:

Come on. He's a very good Tribes 1 player that doesn't like T2. That's great. Time to move on to greener pastures, then. VAB. :wave:

I miss the exhileration.

Originally posted by SuN*Pendragon*


OMG,

I am only on page 9 right now, so forgive me if this has been said - but
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BOW THE FUCK DOWN TO YOUR FUCKING SUPERIORS BITCH!

You fucking whiny bitch - have a little bit of respect for the man who, if he is not the best player in the game, he is one of the top 3.

Who the hell are you? A nobody with a smarmy nya nya nya attitude.

Shut your ignotant mouth you prick.

Wow Pen, that's probably the dumbest retort I've ever seen. In DP's defense, he's not whining. He's not questioning Nat's T1 skill. He didn't seem to have a smarmy nya nya nya attitude.

His post seemed to be intelligent and thought out using his experience in Tribes 2 to refute Natural's position on Tribes 2. I hardly see any ignorance there.

Originally posted by [4M]Harlequin_Jester


Wow Pen, that's probably the dumbest retort I've ever seen. In DP's defense, he's not whining. He's not questioning Nat's T1 skill. He didn't seem to have a smarmy nya nya nya attitude.

His post seemed to be intelligent and thought out using his experience in Tribes 2 to refute Natural's position on Tribes 2. I hardly see any ignorance there.

Yeah Harley but this is just highschool we're all supposed to listen to the cool kids and do what they do so we can be cool too :hrm:

I've got to say that I agree with Natural, and I understand why he would be reluctant to post this. Look what happened to him, he posts a list of honest gripes with the game, and he gets people saying stuff like "Play for more than 10 fucking minutes!" The game does have serious flaw, and you could tell from the tone of the original post that it was written like a teacher to a student who just doesnt get it, tired and weary. I share the feeling, and I can only hope something drastic happens to really change the game.