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TseTse 04-26-2007, 01:26 PM I decided to level my rogue from 58 to 70 cuz im bored and it's good $$$.
My warlock is 70, epic flying mount... and has Alchemy/Herbalism. I can make good cash farming herbalism, which is important to note.
My rogue is 62 with herbalism and mining. He was always my farmer (my lock used to be alch/engi). I wont play him much in PvE and he wont ever have an epic flying mount.
I'm deliberating how to setup final professions and i cant make up my mind.
Ive considered... tailoring, enchanting, jc... even engi... for my lock, replacing herbalism. I just cant convince myself that any of them clearly are worth what's lost in doing that. What i'd gain are basically the BoP options they allow... and perhaps some new financial angles. I dont really want to blow a crapload of cash/time on leveling crafting but i would consider it.
On the other hand, i could just drop herbalism on my rogue and swap in something there to match with Mining. The main issue with the rogue is i wont be raiding with him or playing him very seriously, so i cant expect to be getting lots of pimp recipes.
:mecry:
I dont know what to do.
Thoughts/suggestions welcome. I dont want to lose money, whatever i do, and nor am i obsessed with my choice having to pimp me out with gear (in the case of tailoring, at best id have 2-3 BoP pieces).
BoP crafted tailoring is amazing.
Osiris 04-26-2007, 03:56 PM Keep your rogue herb/mine. Tailoring/Alch on your lock, then again keep herbalism instead of tailoring if you got a good raiding guild. Just imo though.
Lukeris 04-26-2007, 04:40 PM Mining/JC is great for cash.
Lord Elessar 04-26-2007, 04:56 PM I just started skinning again with my druid. dang that's good money on a old high pop server. People have money to waste and buy lots of leather from the AH. Later Scales sell really well too.
TseTse 04-27-2007, 08:44 AM - Going tailor on my lock
Sure, i might want to make those fire oriented epics in a few slots and that would be nice crit and dmg, but is it really worth leveling tailoring and then acquiring those 2-3 patterns just for that option? I'm not sure. Then again, i dont know how profitable tailoring can be in terms of selling cloth vs time invested. If selling the CD cloth is good $$$ then it might be worth the effort (and cash from leveling my alt could support it up front)
I have quality tailors in my guild, too.
- JC and Enchanting
Having either my my main would be nice, as both offer simple BoP stuff and cash opportunities. However, im more proned to go with JC on my rogue than on my main... since i have a guild JC who can produce the top gems as i need them. It would be purely for profiteering off prospecting and a few cuts.
I dont get enough gear drops at this time to be that optimistic about DEing profits, so... that isnt really appealing.
- Skinning
Skinning can be sick cash but requires a lot of farming. I know i could get it on my rogue and potentially have another farm option supplementing my lock's herbalism. This would be a simple, doable new profit. However, im not that familiar with the leather market and exactly how well it is in practice on my server. I'd love to hear suggestions on maybe what i oughta look for on the AH to determine if the mraket is good.
My primary fear is that dropping herbalism on my lock for some crafting prof will both jack up my "workload" and nerf my ability to quickly make money or prep for raids. I could put every penny i make leveling my alt into a profession so that's not that hard. However, if i rely on my rogue for getting herbs then that might be real depressing.
Feannag 04-27-2007, 10:14 AM Explain how skinning would take more time to farm than mining or herbalism. Assuming equal stacks (20) skinning would yield more product in the same amount of time as the other two. You have to rely on Gatherer to go back to nodes to farm versus just slaughtering a bunch of mobs pretty much right next to each other.
You should remember the reason why herbalism is so profitable now. All I hear about end-game is the constant griping over needed so many consumeables to raid, etc. True? Most likely, but maybe that's exactly why herbalism is king in Outlands right now. Mining may still be used by three professions, but even the lowest metal (Fel Iron) still needs what? 3 ore to smelt 1 bar? And it simply goes up from there. To the point you need a rather large sum of ore simply to make one item.
Maybe you should hold off on dropping herbalism for the time being, I think Blizzard will be addressing the consumeable raiding issue and when that comes around I think herbalism won't be king anymore. So ride the gold wave while it's still here, and trade it out when dev action quells it.
Lord Elessar 04-27-2007, 10:16 AM -
My primary fear is that dropping herbalism on my lock for some crafting prof will both jack up my "workload" and nerf my ability to quickly make money or prep for raids. I could put every penny i make leveling my alt into a profession so that's not that hard. However, if i rely on my rogue for getting herbs then that might be real depressing.
Dropping herb hurts. My lock was alch/herb for a long time. I dropped herb for tailoring so I could get the shadow weave stuff after I got alch to 375. You're still fine as far as transmutes go but you feel the lack of money from making pots and collecting herbs. I'm going to go herb with my shaman once I get it's blacksmithing to 225-250 or so. I've found I can mine and grind up smithing at the same time I'm questing to a certain point but eventually I will have to spend too much time mining. I can do that with my paladin who is already 70 and save myself some time.
Surge 04-27-2007, 10:23 AM having herb is still that great for money? you can always farm primals if decided to drop herb for tailoring, but i'm not sure how much that compares to picking high level flowers... warlock can probably make ATLEAST 75g/hour farming various primals. chinny that shit up when you get alot of free time, then switch to different motes and do it again
Lord Elessar 04-27-2007, 10:58 AM it all depends on how camped everything is.
TseTse 04-27-2007, 11:29 AM Skinning does sound like the most viable "swap" for my rogue. I wouldnt have to worry about flying around, basically. East farming cash and i could just pick 1-2 regular spots to run.
As for tailoring, i have very good tailors around me. I dont need it for any BoEs. There are only a couple BoPs and im not sure they are worth all the effort, unless the crafted cloth makes it worthwhile (i dont know).
I rely heavily on alchemy and while the 2.1 changes are nerfing elixirs... im not convinced that the demand on consumables is going to really decrease THAT much. Some of the secondary elixirs wont be in demand anymore but overall people still will be buffing up.
having herb is still that great for money? you can always farm primals if decided to drop herb for tailoring, but i'm not sure how much that compares to picking high level flowers... warlock can probably make ATLEAST 75g/hour farming various primals. chinny that shit up when you get alot of free time, then switch to different motes and do it again
I'm very familiar with the primal market. I made most of my epic money from it. The market sucks ass now. I can make more farming terocone and fishing (i can fish up two stacks of primal waters in 5 mins if the pools are up).
Feannag 04-27-2007, 12:01 PM If memory serves they'll be altering leather skinning in the next patch. Mainly allowing more leather and less scraps for higher lvl mobs.
DeadlyRabbit 04-27-2007, 03:19 PM I have been thinking about changing getting rid of skinning on my paly to have Herbs and mining on it. I am just holding back because I was trying to see if there is a way to have both Find Herbs and Find Minerals running at the same time.
Sailyn 04-27-2007, 03:32 PM If you aren't tailoring as a caster, you're missing out on craftable tier 7.
I'd suggest going herb/mining on your rogue and DEFINITELY picking up tailoring on your warlock. The gear is retarded good.
HaPpY 04-27-2007, 03:35 PM since when does tsetse need wow advice :p:
TseTse 04-27-2007, 05:21 PM If you aren't tailoring as a caster, you're missing out on craftable tier 7.
I'd suggest going herb/mining on your rogue and DEFINITELY picking up tailoring on your warlock. The gear is retarded good.
In the abstract, that sounds OMFG AWESOME!!!!
In the reality, i look for BoPs... and i only see Spellfire Vest, Gloves and Belt. I dont do shadow dmg for primary dmg type. Now, granted, that 3 part set is badass but it's not enough for me to grind tailoring and grind for the patterns. Nor is going affliction on my agenda any time soon.
Shoddy 04-27-2007, 05:55 PM I have been thinking about changing getting rid of skinning on my paly to have Herbs and mining on it. I am just holding back because I was trying to see if there is a way to have both Find Herbs and Find Minerals running at the same time.
There isn't, but it is not that hard to switch betwen them. Beats the hell out of seeing a Khorium vein while you're herbing and not being able to do anything with it.
DeadlyRabbit 04-27-2007, 06:44 PM There isn't, but it is not that hard to switch betwen them. Beats the hell out of seeing a Khorium vein while you're herbing and not being able to do anything with it.
Only other thing I look at is the Minerals are easy to spot compared to herbs
Smaqaho 04-27-2007, 06:59 PM If you're using it as a gathering alt might as well get the epic flying mount. I use a friend's mage for herb farming for that reason and when I play my own priest I can make over 100g/hr farming primals because I'm CST on a PST server so I have a few hours weekend morning to farm uncontested mobs. 26 primal fires in 4 hours one day last week, 11 primal mana in less than 90 minutes last weekend. Herbalism can't keep up with that. I sell extra primals I have after cloth xmutes and use the profits to buy herbs for raid pots. All the herbs I farm on dimio other than netherbloom (I drink super mana pots like water in raids) I sell and save the profit on a bank alt.
Error|550 04-27-2007, 07:00 PM Mining/JC is great for cash.
That's what I would do. In fact, I've been seriously considering it as my rogue is currently Skinning/Leartherworking and it has gotten boring.
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