Maiden

I hear shes really easy, but our guild is progressing slowly and CANNOT keep our tank up through it.. even flasked with a pally sac'n to break repetence.. We have a Druid OT and a War MT.. decent geared both.. The war just dies way to fast on repetence and the druid takes CBs although a lot less reg dmg , should we just substitute a dps for the war and have the druid MT or should we stand on the pillars differently I'm really frustrated

HOT's up, sac to break, have a healer stand in to break the sleep .. have more than 10k hp?

Resto shaman holy pally holy priest healing it , have tryed all that tank has 17k hp 500 d ...

If you can't keep a 17k hp tank up get new healers.

Your tank might want to what 'shield block' is :P

If you can't keep up someone with 17k, there's a serious problem. There's no reason to flask EVER in karazhan.

What the above posters said.. right before the repetance(deadly boss mod is your friend) have a healer step in the aoe

Because for some reason most of the time we can get maiden to 50% before the first repetence but then everything falls apart after that :-/

you know all the shit u need to do

tell your guild to stop sucking?

Doesn't Repentence happen every 30 seconds or so? So according to you, your guild has the DPS to drop Maiden in just over a minute and your healers can't keep your tank up? :lol:

well I really don't know what the fuck the prob is its very straight forward i think amybe the priest isnt dispelling holyfire fast enough and in many attempts last night we didnt have our pally so we had to kite the mob to the healers.. is it more effective to step in the circle?

She should always be in the center, everyone else is around the circle, but inside the pillars.

Its easy as hell I dont know how you can lose...

Anything I could add to this has already been mentioned. Your healers need to top the tank up before repentance, your druids need to hit up hots before repentance, and the palidan has to break out and pick up the healing.

Your tank has to have decent mitigation, decent block, decent hp.

Your tank can make things interesting by dragging maiden over to a healer to free them from repentance, but that is more advanced, and generally, not necessary.

It sounds like either your tank is undergeared, underexperienced or both. That or your healers are ass. My experience is that the worst healer can heal a single target, so my guess is that it is the tank. And don't flask for maiden. If you flask at all, flask for curator and prince.

- Blessing of Sacrifice on a melee, not on the main tank (and of course keep it on).
- Don't have all the melee run in at once and hit him as hard as you can. I.E. If you have two rogues, switch off.
- Spread your healers out so everyone is in range of the dispels for holy fire
- Don't suck.

also try a shadow priest that can keep up constant heals as the fight progresses but the blessing of sacrafice is the key

no more than 2 melee other than the tank.

and fucking terribles like Salbert aka Calder have to dispell.

no more than 2 melee other than the tank.

and fucking terribles like Salbert aka Calder have to dispell.
Just don't bring melee to raids, it works wonders

Just don't bring melee to raids, it works wonders

ya fuck that guy who outdps's everyone even when he is afk no less than half an hour during said raid

Because for some reason most of the time we can get maiden to 50% before the first repetence but then everything falls apart after that :-/

There is no sense you having that kind of DPS if you can't heal through it. 50% before the first repentance? That's pretty insane, and it tells me you're probably wasting someone to make that DPS (i.e 8 DPS a tank and 1 healer). If that's not the case it's either your healers sucking or your tank sucking.

You don't really need an off-tank, and dispelling is pretty key. If someone is not in a good spot to be dispelled of the holy fire people are gonna die.

stance dance out of repentence

I think maiden was bugged, because rep didnt come up till she was 50% we have 2 locks 1 mage ele shaman 1 hunter 1 priest 1 pally 1 rest shaman 1 druid 1 war