Shooting on VA Tech campus


Baby Bew
04-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I run through these scenarios every day. What I would do in the case of any number of emergencies from someone pulling a gun, someone walking towards me weirdly, someone robbing me, etc. It is standard operating procedure for a police force to be able to deal with a shooting in today's world. If a fucking 20 year old kid with two pistols can kill 33 what would they do in a case of a terrorist or other threat? It is your job to serve and protect, failing to plan ahead for situations like this rests squarely on their shoulders.
I love how you can criticize what the police did without even knowing what they did or knowing what they knew.

Mr.Beverage
04-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Has there been actual confirmation that the two incidents were connected?

not really

slug
04-16-2007, 11:43 PM
Nah, no chance they were

DacTheHork
04-16-2007, 11:44 PM
if the police in fucking blacksburg, virginia have to worry about defending our nation from terrorists, then we're fucked to begin with

It would take 5 minutes to come up with a reasonable plan. It would take 5 minutes to coordinate a comprehensive plan with the school. What do these people do all day besides worry about stupid underage drinking?

Also note they had a killer on the loose 8 months ago and 2 bomb threats recently. They had the incentive and time to come up with some kind of plan in case of repeats/events. Hell, I know highschools that have intense security and go through school shooting training. The highschool I went to in bumfuck Arizona had ID cards on every student and an entire fence around the school, admitting people only at the beginning and ending of a school day.

Once there was someone who thought he heard a ticking and they locked down the school and called a bomb squad. Was a fucking CD player.

MeSlayer
04-16-2007, 11:44 PM
hey link now i will remember you for this thread instead of narcing on your roommate, are you excited?????

yeah! thats why i was e-annoyed by link

i knew it was something!

its all good :sunny:

Diablo Escobar
04-16-2007, 11:45 PM
well if link narc'd on his roommate and got him kicked out of school....he could technically be a life saver

link_
04-16-2007, 11:45 PM
I run through these scenarios every day. What I would do in the case of any number of emergencies from someone pulling a gun, someone walking towards me weirdly, someone robbing me, etc. It is standard operating procedure for a police force to be able to deal with a shooting in today's world. If a fucking 20 year old kid with two pistols can kill 33 what would they do in a case of a terrorist or other threat? It is your job to serve and protect, failing to plan ahead for situations like this rests squarely on their shoulders.

Remember the time that a kid stabbed several dozen people at a train depot in Berlin?? He had either a sword or a knife and stabbed like 40+ people before he got caught. WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE STOP HIM!!?!?

How do you plan ahead for this? You understand that they were following police procedure and tracking down a suspect based on eye witness accounts right? That search led them to Blacksburg...to some random guys house. Then the second attack happened. How are they suppose to know that was gonna happen? What the hell kind of police force could operate with this many ridiculous scenarios ?

Baby Bew
04-16-2007, 11:46 PM
link got someone kicked out of school/ ;rofl;

how did i miss that thread///

Alvarez
04-16-2007, 11:46 PM
I feel bad for the all the deaths at VT today. By law the students were not allowed to protect themselves on campus and were easy targets. See how well total gun bans work? If some professors and students were equally armed someone may have been able to take this guy out before he got through 32 people. This is a very sad situation.

I agree totally. Also my heart goes out to all the VT family's and those who lost their lives today.

On a side note... I love the left half of your sig.

link_
04-16-2007, 11:46 PM
well if link narc'd on his roommate and got him kicked out of school....he could technically be a life saver

haha i can't believe you said that. Im angry and upset right now but that made me :lol:

link_
04-16-2007, 11:50 PM
link got someone kicked out of school/ ;rofl;

how did i miss that thread///

haha i dunno, but it was a doosey.

DacTheHork
04-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Remember the time that a kid stabbed several dozen people at a train depot in Berlin?? He had either a sword or a knife and stabbed like 40+ people before he got caught. WHY DIDN'T THE POLICE STOP HIM!!?!?

How do you plan ahead for this? You understand that they were following police procedure and tracking down a suspect based on eye witness accounts right? That search led them to Blacksburg...to some random guys house. Then the second attack happened. How are they suppose to know that was gonna happen? What the hell kind of police force could operate with this many ridiculous scenarios ?

It is not ridiculous.

7:15, Two shot dead in a dorm room, murderer on the loose on campus or near.
9:30 Email sent out to proceed with caution.
9:45 Asian male chains shut a door then proceeds to kill 30 people then himself over a period of minutes. The students inside had no warning of a murderer on the loose or a shooting earlier that day minutes away.

A warning ? A simple warning might have prevented it, maybe people might have noticed the first floor door chained shut? A suspicious suspect? Maybe shutting down the school for the day until they where certain it was SAFE!

If there was a shooting at disneyland and the shooter was not found, would they close down the park or keep it going suspecting he fled?

2 people shot dead and murderer on the loose is not a reason to have no caution or to "proceed as normal"

Diablo Escobar
04-16-2007, 11:51 PM
not only is that a tremendously edited version of the events, it lacks all context and......you know what fuck it, this really isn't worth it, i only argue with mental midgets named badmofo

psychobolt
04-16-2007, 11:52 PM
It would be easier if they just sounded the lockdown alarm.

eyecu
04-16-2007, 11:53 PM
the first 5 pages are pretty funny given the enormity of the event and how lightly everyone on tw initially takes it.

JerryGarcia
04-16-2007, 11:53 PM
To the Aggie Family:


To show solidarity with fellow students at our sister land-grant
institution Virginia Tech and in response to the tragedy reported
today, Echo Taps will be held tonight at 10:30 pm on the Quad in memory
of the shooting victims. All Aggies are asked to attend to show their
support for everyone at Virginia Tech and to convey to them our
sympathy and concern.

Also, please take a moment to write letters of condolence and support
to the families and students feeling the effects of this horrible
tragedy. Stationery will be available all week, free of charge, in the
MSC and Rudder Plaza for your use. At the end of the week, all
correspondence will be boxed and mailed by Student Government to
Virginia Tech.


Sincerely,

Nic Taunton ?07
Student Body President


much love VT

Kizzak
04-16-2007, 11:53 PM
It would be easier if they just sounded the lockdown alarm.

Should have just lit the lockdown signal that would reflect off the clouds so everyone could see it.

DacTheHork
04-16-2007, 11:54 PM
not only is that a tremendously edited version of the events, it lacks all context and......you know what fuck it, this really isn't worth it, i only argue with mental midgets named badmofo

Tremendously edited?

Email sent out at 9:29

two people shot dead by elevator on fourth floor at 7:15

31 dead around 9:45

I did not make anything up or edit the events... If I did please point them out. Yes I am more cautious then most people, but in these types of events you don't fuck around with probably.

Baby Bew
04-16-2007, 11:54 PM
Tremendously edited?

Email sent out at 9:29

two people shot dead by elevator on fourth floor at 7:15

31 dead around 9:45

I did not make anything up or edit the events... If I did please point them out.

yep thats pretty much everything that happened in that span of time

Kizzak
04-16-2007, 11:55 PM
Tremendously edited?

Email sent out at 9:29

two people shot dead by elevator on fourth floor at 7:15

31 dead around 9:45

I did not make anything up or edit the events... If I did please point them out.

Has there been any confirmation that the two events were conducted by the same individual?