P Masta Flex
04-16-2007, 11:12 PM
Oh I understand that. And culturally there are huge gaps - Australians HANDED their guns back in (not sure if there was any refund or incentive other than it would soon be illegal). I think there'd be massive public uproar if Americans were asked/told to do the same. I understand it's part of your Bill of Rights or whatnot that you can bear arms.
Whereas, funnily enough, Australia was built on crime (though not really violence) and is quite peaceful.
I am not saying there is no crime or murder, but there isn't anything on such a scale - except for once in Tasmania, all those years ago. Could it happen again? Of course it could, it could happen anywhere anytime. It just doesn't seem to happen here, but it does in the US.
Just my observation - the answer, from an Australian point of view, sure as fuck is not to arm anyone anymore than they already are. Disarming people has worked quite well, as best I can tell, in Australia. Infact, in Melbourne, it is also now (as of a year or two ago) highly illegal to own swords without proper authorisation. This was to curb knife and sword crime, which was rising. Did it work? Honestly I don't know. The have been less reports of it in the media, but we all know that means jack shit.
you are very wrong and people who just read this drivel without researching the facts cause problems.
Because of the changes made to the gun control laws in 1997, gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. And now the results are in. After 12 months of banning firearms:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent;
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent).
Hot Burglaries are up 300% (where the intruders come in while you are home and knows that you are home).
In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent.
Figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms (but increased drastically in the past 12 months). There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been served after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns." Their response has been to "wait longer".
Their suggestion to citizens has been to build a fortified room in their house, so that when a burglar enters their home, the homeowners may lock themselves in that room while the burglar takes what he wants from their house.
At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said, "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm."
Whereas, funnily enough, Australia was built on crime (though not really violence) and is quite peaceful.
I am not saying there is no crime or murder, but there isn't anything on such a scale - except for once in Tasmania, all those years ago. Could it happen again? Of course it could, it could happen anywhere anytime. It just doesn't seem to happen here, but it does in the US.
Just my observation - the answer, from an Australian point of view, sure as fuck is not to arm anyone anymore than they already are. Disarming people has worked quite well, as best I can tell, in Australia. Infact, in Melbourne, it is also now (as of a year or two ago) highly illegal to own swords without proper authorisation. This was to curb knife and sword crime, which was rising. Did it work? Honestly I don't know. The have been less reports of it in the media, but we all know that means jack shit.
you are very wrong and people who just read this drivel without researching the facts cause problems.
Because of the changes made to the gun control laws in 1997, gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. And now the results are in. After 12 months of banning firearms:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent;
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent).
Hot Burglaries are up 300% (where the intruders come in while you are home and knows that you are home).
In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent.
Figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms (but increased drastically in the past 12 months). There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been served after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns." Their response has been to "wait longer".
Their suggestion to citizens has been to build a fortified room in their house, so that when a burglar enters their home, the homeowners may lock themselves in that room while the burglar takes what he wants from their house.
At the time of the ban, the Prime Minister said, "self-defense is not a reason for owning a firearm."