Did I make a mistake creating a Druid?

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The_Interceptor
08-01-2006, 09:50 AM
Ok, I just started playing WoW about 2 weeks ago, and I have a lvl 10 Druid. From what I'm reading the Druid is a dying class, and people are dropping it left and right. Why is that?

Should I scrap my druid and create a new character? If so, what class do you suggest? I was thinking perhaps a hunter.

Calder
08-01-2006, 09:54 AM
Don't pay attention to any of the class forums, they're all retards.

Daemon
08-01-2006, 10:08 AM
Depends. Are you headed for the high endgame?

Actually, it dosen't matter. If you plan to get to 60, don't do it on a druid. Mine is about a centimeter from being scrapped completely. Been playing him since 2 weeks after release, got full t2 and other late-game gear, etc.

If you want to heal, make a priest. If you like some other aspect of what they do, make a member of the parent class ( mage, warrior rogue ).

The_Interceptor
08-01-2006, 10:13 AM
I think I'll try out a hunter and see where that takes me.

TonyElTigre
08-01-2006, 10:13 AM
yeah i dont understand people who make druids and play them like rogues or healers or wahtever. For evey aspect a druid can cover there is a class designerd to do exactly that job better.

I gotta admit i like the DOT heals though

kesh
08-01-2006, 10:19 AM
druids hands down have the best buff in the game. If you see that a lot of people are not playing druids, that means they will be wanted more in the end game. I've played druids a lot and they are probably my favorite class because 'there are classes designed to do the jobs a druid can' or vice-a-versa. It makes me the tank/healer/DPS/nuker (though last one is hardly ever true). Druids are for those that just like to do anything and everything, though we aren't the best at what we do, we still can open up with a DPS/heal ourselves (OT) then do some tanking.

its a wonderful world, but its not for everyone.

Skibbi9
08-01-2006, 10:20 AM
If you like to PVP zomg dr00dz!!!


btw, 2 weeks and level 10? I don't think you have anything to worry about, Level 10 is roughly 3 hours of playtime, just play any class that you enjoy as you seem to be an entirely casual player.


I have a level 13 druid alt (Just started as I'm not digging my 20 mage alt, and my 22 lock alt is on permanent worlddragon summoning duty) This thing is gonna terrorize WSG
SkiCo for the win

Daemon
08-01-2006, 10:25 AM
It's a matter of too little being available for whatever you're trying to do.

They made it so, as a druid, if you spec to be good at a given role, you are still not as good as the parent class. What that means is the stuff you don't spec for is laughably weak.

If i'm full resto, I can get some pretty decent HOTs going. But you can't kill anyone. Mage crits you for 1600, your moonfire hits mage for 235.

If you dont spec resto, your hots are a joke. Rejuv heals you for 350, rogue white damage hits you for 550.

If you are feral, good luck controlling a fight with one CC spell that dosen't have a cooldown but also dosen't stop them from attacking you and breaks easily ( root ). Every other cc ability has a long cooldown and is subject to resist or misses, or just plain sucks.

Your ravage crits mage for 1800. Your claw crits mage for 500. Mage gains iceblock. Your FB failed, target is immune. Mage gains blink. Mage uses potion. Mage POM pyro crits you for 2k. Mages fireblast crits you for 1k. Mage's blastwave crits you for 1k. You die.

Right now i'm 30 balance just to do AV to keep my honor rank. Even doing this, I have to chug noggenfogger so no one knows I am a fat tauren easy kill. It's great! Dosen't that sound fun?

Skibbi9
08-01-2006, 10:35 AM
QQ Daemon, QQ


as for your mage scenario, Isn't that the case for most Melee classes? If a mage frostnova's and blinks, i often get the crap beaten out of me. No reason for you to cry about it.

Drood cappers are the devil

sekdar
08-01-2006, 10:41 AM
Druids are one of the least broken classes in the game. Ignore the tards and play what you like.

The_Interceptor
08-01-2006, 10:46 AM
I think I'll try hunter, then perhaps move over to a mage or something.

Daemon
08-01-2006, 11:01 AM
QQ Daemon, QQ


as for your mage scenario, Isn't that the case for most Melee classes? If a mage frostnova's and blinks, i often get the crap beaten out of me. No reason for you to cry about it.

Drood cappers are the devil


The examples are oversimplified, obviously.

No, I don't always lose. I can do very well in certain limited situations.

It's more the fact that my counters to other classes are weak, it's real frustrating to be the first one targeted in any zerg cause they know you're the easiest kill.

As for drood cappers, sure. You can be this potion-guzzling uncatchable thing. But that's all you do. I catch well-known alliance cappers outside WSG all the time and watch them get destroyed, because druid capping takes no skill. So i'm not interested in it.

Playing my priest, prowler's rogue, my buddy's warrior, and my paladin has just driven home how limited in scope and poorly built the class is.

But, I mean, by all means keep telling me how my 90 something days on my druid means I should l2p, QQ, or whatever the current fad insult is

I just don't want someone wasting as much time as I did to be disappointed in the result. My advice is to simply play a better-developed class.

The_Interceptor
08-01-2006, 11:19 AM
What do you guys think of the hunter class? I see that they get to wear the good armor at lvl 40, but are they a good class later in the game??

Skibbi9
08-01-2006, 11:21 AM
Daemon, Obviously it wasn't all bad otherwise you wouldn't have gone through 90days played. If anything that would show the amount of options of things you had to do, most people burn out before that amount of /played.

Its all bases on what you want to do, and what makes the game fun for you.

That being said, there is an OOMkin drood on my server that hitz HARD, really hard. Out nukes just about anyone. He's not a fun duel.

Raven
08-01-2006, 11:32 AM
what the fuck? druid easiest kill?


you can't be cc'd and you can bearform.

Shoddy
08-01-2006, 11:43 AM
What do you guys think of the hunter class?

Pro: Fast to level, good escape ability when soloing PvE

Con: There are a lot of them so it might take you a bit longer to get a 5-man group to go somewhere than if you were a priest/mage/warrior

Error|550
08-01-2006, 11:45 AM
Ok, I just started playing WoW about 2 weeks ago, and I have a lvl 10 Druid. From what I'm reading the Druid is a dying class, and people are dropping it left and right. Why is that?
Don't pay attention to any of the class forums, they're all retards.
1) Druids in end-game are the only ones that can rez in the middle of combat. Actually you get that skill well before level 60.

2) Mark/Gift of the Wild makes everyone happy. Especially you in Dire Bear form. Most especially "squishies" like it (mages, priests, etc.).

3) A level 60 Feral Druid is a serious dps-dealer. They have issues holding agro vs. a Warrior, yes, but they deal out MAJOR damage.

4) A level 60 Druid is, in many respects, a Rogue that can heal him/herself.

There is no reason to abandon your class *if* you enjoy playing it. My wife wasn't all that hot on Druids until she hit level 20 and now she loves playing her character.

Daemon
08-01-2006, 11:46 AM
Daemon, Obviously it wasn't all bad otherwise you wouldn't have gone through 90days played. If anything that would show the amount of options of things you had to do, most people burn out before that amount of /played.

Its all bases on what you want to do, and what makes the game fun for you.

That being said, there is an OOMkin drood on my server that hitz HARD, really hard. Out nukes just about anyone. He's not a fun duel.

Yeah, i've decided to dump feral and get a lot of spell damage. Inasmuch as I keep playing him at all.

Edit: The days played reflect the fact that the druid itemization dosen't scale well against other classes in pvp. It really wasn't always this bad.. the epicization of the server population is what is really throwing the balance out the window.

Daemon
08-01-2006, 11:51 AM
what the fuck? druid easiest kill?


you can't be cc'd and you can bearform.

heh

hehe

Can't be cc'ed? Wrong. Druids can be cc'd, shifting just breaks certain cc effects. Poly, root, and snare. That's nice, but pvp is all about world of fearcraft these days. Druids get feared just like everyone else.

Bearform, good one. Lets see. I'm in cat gear = bearform AC about 7k. I'm in healer gear, bearform AC = about 6.8k. Neither of which is a barrier to any epiced warrior. Also, being a bear means you can't cast heals. Frenzied regen? Sure, 200hp per tick against 1k heroic strikes, 2k executes, 800 sinister strikes, etc etc.

Keep in mind i have 4300 hp in caster, with healing/nuke gear, and 1800-1900 ac, which is less AC than my priest in CLOTH BLUES. We're talking in 8/8 Stormrage, which is EPIC LEATHER.

Daemon
08-01-2006, 12:04 PM
1) Druids in end-game are the only ones that can rez in the middle of combat. Actually you get that skill well before level 60.

Yes. Useful.

2) Mark/Gift of the Wild makes everyone happy. Especially you in Dire Bear form. Most especially "squishies" like it (mages, priests, etc.).

Not a bad buff at all. Subject to dispels in pvp, but everyone gets that.

3) A level 60 Feral Druid is a serious dps-dealer. They have issues holding agro vs. a Warrior, yes, but they deal out MAJOR damage.

Heh. If you have the very best feral gear, and load up on potions and temporary buffs, you can do -comparable- damage to a rogue who ISN'T top end. Major damage.. hm well.. I wouldn't call it that. Not to mention that if you do this in raids, you are using a healer slot to be a second-rate rogue. As for tanking, I don't really have agro control problems. Also note that no matter what, your guild needs you to heal. So you get to work whatever loot system your guild uses to try and maintain two sets of gear, healing and feral.

4) A level 60 Druid is, in many respects, a Rogue that can heal him/herself.

If you mean a thing that gains combo points and uses finishers, ok. Oh and stealth. That isn't what I would call 'many' respects. The strength of the rogue isn't SS/Evisc, it's in his CC abilities, which the cat gets none of.

There is no reason to abandon your class *if* you enjoy playing it. My wife wasn't all that hot on Druids until she hit level 20 and now she loves playing her character.

I'm all for this. The druid is not a bad class 1-59. It is in the 60 game versus the ubergeared in pvp where it begins to get real shoddy. If you don't care about the 60 pvp or raiding game, then all this is a non-issue. Also note that cat is awesome until the 40s, where the dps tends to taper off in relation to the mobs you have to fight. This isn't a uniquely druid issue, I noticed it with my paladin as well. Just don't assume that the situation in the 20s carries over all levels and into the endgame, because it dosen't.