Did I make a mistake creating a Druid?

I recently leveled a druid up to 57 and got bored with it. I rerolled a hunter and have been loving it so far (level 48).

My main is a 60 lock and my alt is a 60 druid. I like my druid more then my main. I don't pvp so it's just raiding. It took some getting used to but even with non high end gear, I do as much effective healing as similarly equiped priest in our guild. Now a priest has some better heals (quick and more mana efficient) but there are times where a druid healer is needed.

Plus I don't mind not being able to rez the entire raid. As long as there is one priest/paly, let them. A priest has fort/spirit, palies have kings, salv, wisdom, ligh, etc that people always ask for. Druids just have mark. Gives me more time between pulls to go get something to drink.

I've been leveling a druid (lvl 47 atm) and i have to say it's the most challenging and testing class i've leveled (and i've leveld pretty much all past 20, except shaman).

It's a challenge, but rewarding imo. I feel unique and i feel like my contribution to the group, although never really respected, is something that no other class could do. My battle rez + innervate and backup healing when priest dies is irreplacable.

Like last night was in Mara. Me dps'ing, a rogue, a warrior, a paladin, and another druid healing with his healing gear. On princess, aggro resets and our healer dies, i battle rez, aggro resets again and she dies in 1 hit. Up to me to heal the rest of the battle with just me, paladin, and the tank and we do it. Without innervate + battle rez, we would have got no where :)

Ok, I just started playing WoW about 2 weeks ago, and I have a lvl 10 Druid. From what I'm reading the Druid is a dying class, and people are dropping it left and right. Why is that?

Should I scrap my druid and create a new character? If so, what class do you suggest? I was thinking perhaps a hunter.the druid is fine

itemization for the druids sucks

and most people that rolled a druid are retarded and think it is as good a nuker/tank/melee dps as it is a healer.

saying a druid does "major dps" is silly without providing some basis for comparison.

Major compared to what? A paladin?
No feral druid with any gear in the game will come close to an equally geared rogue, provided the rogue isn't terrible with regards to pve dmg output.

They shouldn't come close to warriors, mages or hunters either.

every story you hear about uber druid dps or even your own experiences all have an underlying issue: measuring dps and dmg output is a relative measurement to the other players in your raid. If they suck, you look better, it's not rocket science.

On princess, aggro resets and our healer dies

Untankable Princess strikes again!

My main is a 60 druid on laughing skull, and i have to say i cant agree with daemon. while we may not be best at anything, we are second best at everything. As far as single target healing, a geared priest vs a geared druid doesnt stand a change. Druids with their HOT's can dish out so much more healing than any other class, not to mention that we now get innervate as a free spell. As for pvp i used to play a feral spec (30/21 since you cant truly be efficient in feral pvp without NS) and it was fun but ultimately yes it was gimped...mages i could easily beat but other classes (most specifically warrior and warlock) would wail on me. I now play a moonkin build with some nice endgame raid gear and it can actually be effective...nothing is more satisfying that a 3.2k starfire crit and the stunproc and hitting them again before they do anything.

Druid as a class are fun and challenging. The biggest problem with Druids is I-Level...this is Blizzard's way of determining value of items. For example we will take an example of a Tier 1 Epic item for say the Druid class versus the Mage class. In the case of the mage he wants Stam, Int, +Spell Dmg, +Spell Crit, maybe some Spirit. We will use tow of those stats to prove a point Int and +Spell Damage.

So for example we will say The Mage ets 25 Int, +18 Spell Dmage on this particular piece. The other stats on the piece are comparable in nature. These are 5 stats, useable to the mage all the time, whether it be PvE or PvP.

Now lets jump over to the druid. To accurately give the druid the same capabilities from both a PvP and PvE perspective the following stats would need to be on that same piece of armor. Int, Stam, Agil, Str, Spirit, + To hit, Crit %, +Spell Damage, + Healing, + Spell Crit. But here is where it get interesting or shitty depending on if you play a druid or not.

All thos stats have to be comparable in the following ratios. Same agil/strength/to hit, meelee crit that you would see on Warrior/Rogue gear. All the same stats you would see on that mage gear, all the same healing you see on priest gear.

This is where the problem occurs. The I-level for that item would be beyond anything of the same I-level that Blizzard has staked out. Its like a cumulative point/grading system for items. Quick visual of what that item would look like:

Chestpiece of Fairness we will call it.

205 Armor
25 Stam
25 Int
22 Agil
25 Strength
15 Spirit
+1 To hit
+1 To Crit
+2 Spell Crit
+22 Spell Damage
+35 To healing

An Item like that would never exist due to the fact people would scream bloody murder. And in the hands of a true Hybrid, like the Pally and Shaman that would be an absolutely devasting piece of equipment.

However many people lose sight of a very important fact with Druids. We are not Hybrids. We are Situational Adaptives. A hybrid has the ability to perform all actions at the same time. Druids are only able to do certain things at certain times.

Lets imagine that given a certain situation a Druid needs to tank or heal or DPS whetehr in the form of cat or in the form Balance user. The Druid only uses a quarter of the stats on that Chestpiece at any given time. In bear I can mitigate damage, but can't heal and damge is pitiful. In cat I can Damage but not mitigate or heal. In caster Damge is pitiful in healing gear and healing is pitiful in damage gear.

Druid gear needs to come off I-Level equalization to scale properly with other classes. To a lesser extent Pallies and Shammies share these same issues, but to a much lesser extent.

This whole I-Level thing needs to be addressed or Druids will continue to fall further and further back of their parent classes and will not only continue to be the least played, but will fall even further.

Never played a druid past 20, but I have to admit, I have problems fighting equally geared druids on my mage.

Druids are one of the least broken classes in the game. Ignore the tards and play what you like.

Other then the fact that recent patches broke crucial pvp talents and Druids have were told to wait for the next major patch for a fix.

Other then the fact that a druid has to spec and gear into a certain role while requiring 3x the gear for each of the forms to be capable at any one in particular. Beyond that, gear pigeonholes you into one role at any given time and your one true strength via versatility is completely useless in anything after dire maul.

Druids are good for PVE because they can dish it and then heal.
And track humanoid is very useful. Why don't rogues have it?
But I have no clue how to pvp anything other than warr. Hunters are much easier when it comes to pvp.

Other then the fact that recent patches broke crucial pvp talents and Druids have were told to wait for the next major patch for a fix.

Other then the fact that a druid has to spec and gear into a certain role while requiring 3x the gear for each of the forms to be capable at any one in particular. Beyond that, gear pigeonholes you into one role at any given time and your one true strength via versatility is completely useless in anything after dire maul.

Welcome to raiding.

this thread helped me to quit my 48 druid, thanks :(

i leveled a druid all of the way up to 60.. i had this great idea for a feral druid... i was all over it.

then it struck me. that i was doing the SAME THING as my main.. just not as good at him..

So i put him on the back burner. I am not exactly sure what i want to do with him but.. I think i am going to respec him 100% resto.. due to our guild always needing healers after the rest of the guys bail after the 40 man raids... i then should pick up nice healing/dps gear from the 20 mans raids.

Everybody kind of expect you to heal just because you are a druid anyways.
My druid is feral too but I'm going to respec because of that.

Leveling a druid is fun since you get a little of everything. Since most people are commenting on end game druids I’ll share my thoughts.

I’ve been playing since phase 2 closed beta. I currently have 5 60’s on my main server, 3 of which have been “mains” (warlock, then mage, then druid). I switched from the warlock to the mage since at the time warlocks sucked for pve (and they still have many pve issues). I had no plans to play my druid but the guild I was in at the time literally had no druids so I switched.

I’ve played all types of builds. I played most of my time as a 0/30/21, which is a good combination I think. Once we got past Vael/Broodlord in BWL I switched over to 13/0/38 (improved thorns lol) because I wanted to kill Nefarion and was willing to give up solo pve in order to help the guild and I knew until Nef was down I wouldn’t be doing anything but healing. Now that BWL is well into farm status and we’re on the Twin Emps I respecced back to 0/30/21. I really like this build since it gives me the oh shi button (nature’s swiftness) and 20% more mana for pve healing and I can do decently in dps (I commonly dps on every fight in BWL if we have a higher than average healer turnout) and tanking roles (I’ve tanked Broodlord, Rag, Onxyia, worms, etc). Moonkin was fun, especially since I have +300 spell damage, which is pretty decent for a druid and it’s all leather, but I quickly gave it up since I had an epic equipped mage and moonkins go oom so early it’s frustrating.

I previously played my druid wearing gear to fill whatever role I was in at the time. I still do this if I’m only healing in the encounters that my guild is still attempting or we’re low on healers or I’m only dps’ing/tanking. Now, I wear combination gear so I can do everything in any fight. I’m not the top healer, nor am I even close to the top in dps, but I dress to do everything, every time. So if I start off as dps and a healer goes down, I actually have mana to heal but at the same time, I can still do ok damage (I would guess about ½ of a rogue’s damage).

The biggest hurdle is convincing whoever is in charge to let a hybrid druid play as a hybrid. When we were on Fankriss we had problems with snake control until, after repeated wipes, I suggested that the two feral druids use charge and bash on the extra snakes if they’re going to enrage. The guild leader was extremely doubtful it would help but said why the hell not since nothing else was working. It was an easy win and now I tank the worms when they’re out and help healing/dps when they’re not. Another large problem is gear. I have good gear that let’s me have stats across the board but a lesser equipped druid would have problems. (As a side note, the ZHC is amazing for hybrid healing since it basically raises me back to where I was in healing gear without the ZHC). Now that we're getting to 2.5 stuff I'm really looking forward to the druid Genesis gear.

My hybrid gear btw: http://ctprofiles.net/3220155

i'm a warlock so i don't know if this is a fair statementit isn't