Enchants for daggers.

I dont know what i am talking about when i ask these things. These are just ideas i had working out in my head so if it sounds totally stupid then i didnt know any better or didnt take the time to think it out.

Right now i have a gutgor ripper in my main hand with life stealing on it. I also have a brutality blade in my off hand with 15 agi on it.

As soon as i can i am planning on getting the perdition's blade but i am not sure what to put on it enchant wise. it has no stats so losing both of my blades now i take a 30 agi lose. I am not sure on the actual formula but i know its quite a bit.

I was thinking about putting Crusader on it but i was told it doesnt proc very often.. about once a min. Thats kind meh to me for pvp.

I was going to get life steal put on the perdition's blade.. i was unsure of a few things.. Would life steal proc on both my main and off hand? would i still take 30 damge off both daggers equaling 60 (30 from main hand 30 from off) life taken from them and healed to me?

I am not sure what else to get on my main hand dagger.. i always see rogues with crusader on their perdition's blade or 15 agi.

Generally proccing is based on weapon speed. Faster weapon speed = More times to hit = More chances to proc. Usually they put +15 Agi on the faster weapon and Crusader on the slower weapon, but that may also depend on which weapon the hand has.

Ask Fi, she seems to know how rogue things work though she's got more of a fetish for maces over daggers.

why wouldn't u put +15 agil on the slower weapon and crusader/lifestealing/whatever on the faster one so it can get more procs?

Generally proccing is based on weapon speed. Faster weapon speed = More times to hit = More chances to proc.
What a retarded statement. Absolutely false.

Procs are based on "procs per min" where faster weapons have less chance to proc per swing. But you get more swings so the proc rate equals out.

Which enchant you get depends on your spec. But with a perds mainhand a good bet would be +5 dmg on the mainhand and +15 agi on the offhand. Just take my word for it.

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that is my build. for pvp the proc per min to me seems way to low being a rogue becasue if i entered the fight correctly... it wont last that long. To me i think i would get more milage out of the life steal.

some bosses that are get flakey over heal aggro.. i assume the life steal would draw aggro?

life steal is on the gutgore ripper righ now. its probably going to stay that way also. All i am really asking is if it would be stupid to put it on the main hand also.

Procs are based on "procs per min" where faster weapons have less chance to proc per swing. But you get more swings so the proc rate equals out.

Now that sounds retarded, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised based on what Blizzard has done to the game so far. Maybe it was some idiotic thing they tried to do to balance out PvE vs. PvP in terms of gameplay mechanics. Because I was under the impression proc was more of a "chance on hit" kind of thing, certainly not something that was time-based.

Now that sounds retarded, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised based on what Blizzard has done to the game so far. Maybe it was some idiotic thing they tried to do to balance out PvE vs. PvP in terms of gameplay mechanics. Because I was under the impression proc was more of a "chance on hit" kind of thing, certainly not something that was time-based.

some things are proc per minute (ppm) and some things are chance on hit. Crusader happens to be 4 ppm (im pretty sure) whereas things like the proc from thunderfury is based on the weapon speed, so things like blade fury make it proc more.

Daggers: +5 Damage MH, +15 Agility OH.

Hands down, best combonation of enchants for PvP and PvE.

MH is +5 damage, +15 agi offhand.

And all enchant procs are based on ppm.
Saying that a 2 speed weapon has 5 ppm, that's a 30/5 chance to proc each hit. Which means it can obviously proc a lot more, or less depending on luck.
That's my theory anyway.

Daggers: +5 Damage MH, +15 Agility OH.

Hands down, best combonation of enchants for PvP and PvE.

Crusader is 1 PPM.

Lifestealing is 6.

Crusader is a PvE rogue enchant, LS is PvP.

+5 dmg Mainhand is better for PvP though.

15 Agi offhand, pretty much universally.


Also, for the record, you will get more procs per time interval out of a slow weapon because of the chance per swing being higher due to normalized PPM.

Regarding LS vs Crs vs 15 in PVE, I've found that no matter what enchant you do, you will either do dps or suck regardless of your enchant.

Do all the math you want, the variances are small.

With that said, I'm a dual crus whore. When the screen lights up, I crack an evil smirk.

I also love LS on my VK, and 15 agi on my Hakkari OH for farming and pvp, and in PVE it really doesn't do a bad job, but it is more for fun.

damage +5 mainhand